1950 lone*star malibu rebuild

sslorraine79

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I acquired this boat a few weeks ago and have been doing research on here and around the web, i guess its time for me to post my own thread about the malibu's because i cant find all that much out there

i will ad up to date pictures as the project evolves, so far i've managed to rib out the rear seat clean and sand the whole boat down and i am nearly done with paint... on to replacing the rear bench seat and building the new floor, upholestry etc..

also sent away to have a new hin number affixed as these old boats never needed them
 

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this is when i brought the boat home
 

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this is after i cut out the middle/ rear seat, i plan on moving it back two feet to make more room for maneuvering around the boat. trying to come up with a scheme for building a structural rear seat


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i just hadto cut the middle seat out, and im trying to build up the rear seat as structurally sound as possible. having trouble finding resources to how to do that
 

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Re: 1950 lone*star malibu rebuild

Welcome to iboats.
I just popped in because you have a nice oldie. Pretty much anything with fins is uber cool to me. At least you have a boat with a manufacturer that you can find info out on. Mine for example; I could not find a single thing out at all. Lost to history I guess.
Have fun with your restore. She should turn heads on the lake with the fins.
Question ?Why are you worrying about a hin at all? Our era boats did not have them OEM and are not required? (at least that is what I have been told?. I could be wrong though).
Do you got a matching era motor to go along?

Dave:D
 

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Re: 1950 lone*star malibu rebuild

i have a 63 johnson my neighbor is going to hook me up with 40 hp so im not complaining... hopefully i can get the electric stat going with it

the hin number is worrying me because i need it to have registration in nys.. or so says lafanduh at the dmv lol. so now i get to wait for one of their people to come by and slap one on for me which shouldnt be a big deal. so long as i dont get charged for this service
 

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so i've got the inside and out nearly painted [once the weather clears up and i really get a final coat on the red ill post more pictures

but for now im working on restructuring the rear seat because i know it has to some what support the boat and look good in the end... having trouble finding anyone out there who has had to do this and what direction i should go from here

still need to bolt another 2x4 to the rib just to the front of the one in the picture. this will give me like a 15" seat, plus a little overhang i think im good but any advice?
 

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Cool old boat. Looks like you're making progress. There are really only a few rules when it comes to aluminum boats. 1.) NEVER use PRESSURE TREATED wood. It will cause a galvanic reaction with your hull which will lead to pitting. 2.) Instead, use non-PT exterior grade plywood and seal it with either 2-part epoxy (best), fiberglass mat & resin, or several coats (3-4) of Spar Urethane. 3.) Once the wood is sealed, mount it to the hull using STAINLESS STEEL hardware and/or aluminum rivets throughout. 4.) As far as painting is concerned, simply sand the hull with 220 grit paper to remove and old, loose paint. Prime with a light coat of Zinc Chromate Self-Etching primer, then apply the top coat of your choice. That's really about it. The rest is only a matter of time, money and patience. Good luck. Keep us posted.
 

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painting is done for the most part, just gotta go around and do the trim in black... now im moving onto the fun parts

anyone have a clue where i can find a full set of nav lights? i'd hate to piece them out and spend a hundred bucks... couldnt they just sell the bow and stern lights all in one package
also kind of confused on this whole wiring thing...if i add in a stereo wont it kill my battery? is there alternators on these old outboards?
 

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Some of the old OB's had Alternator/Generators but not all. If you plan on using a radio a lot you might consider running two batteries
 

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would i just take the auxilary battery in at night and charge it up in the house? because it is an electric start and like i said i need the nav lights and want to install a few courtesy lights for the inside... maybe just a rope light up under the lip where the steering cables are at

i imagine this would take up a decent amount of electricity after a few hours out at night on the boat...
 

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I have had the same questions you expressed about wiring and batteries. I have gone through this most recently in fact. I was told by a friend of mine who owns a boat shop in my town, that most of the old ones have a stator (or something) under the flywheel. (I also have a 63 40 hp Johnson). It supposedly charges a little but he said not to count on it. The only way you will know if you have one is if you pull the flywheel. Not a really good idea so I never desired to check. I am going on the presumption that I do not have any charging capabilities and go from there. Meaning two batteries are in my future. I bought a big interstate cranking battery (from my friend) the old outboards need a lot of juice to start. I can tell you I have lots of lighting that I have installed. (Even during testing and hook ups they drain the battery really rapidly). I would suggest you look in to a two battery system (one cranker and one deep cycle if you are planning on long night trips).
Dave
 

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yeah i've seen people mention the deep cycle batteries but whats really the difference between a starting battery and a deep cycle? besides the price

and if i had a two battery system would i have them both on the same circuit or one battery for the motor and one for the lighting and miscellaneous things like lights radio etc...


any ideas or recommendations where to look for advice on building up this rear seat though?!!? thats my current project with the boat, i want to have a back rest as well so not just a basic bench seat... i'll get to the wiring when the time comes
 

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Hi sslorraine. I think a 2 battery set up would be best for a variety of reasons. For one you won't be keeping all your eggs in one basket. It would not be fun to have your accessories drain your starting battery. It will always happen at the worse time possible and will leave you without a motor and lights. Plus, the types of battery you need are different. A starting battery is designed, to deliver a large, quick surge of power to the starter to get the motor going, then basically does nothing as these old motors use a mechanical ignition that does not require outside electricity. You'll often hear it described in terms of "cold cranking amps" (CCA), which is just a measure of how much of a zap it can deliver at once. Some vintage motors up to about 35 hp can be started with a small ATV, or motor cycle battery, but a full car-sized one is probably best. Deep cycle batteries, on the other hand, are designed to provide long continuous current to accessories like lights, trolling motors and radios. They're kind of heavy, but can provide hours and hours of use. You can get on board re-charging systems, but it will probably cheaper/easier to just take the battery(s) out and recharge it after every trip. You'll also want to consider the layout. Adding two batters will also add weight, which isn't always bad. If you have problems with the bow porpoising, placing the battery(s) forward can help counteract this effect. Also, make sure the batteries are easily accessible should you need to replace, repair or remove them for recharging. The wiring itself should be pretty simple. Do a search here for threads and sticky on the wiring as well as how to build a bench seat. I read a recent thread on someone making his own bench, but I can't remember the name of the thread. Probably, something fancy like "Bench Seat Upholstery". Good luck. We love pics.
 

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yeah i saw the videos, i need to build a structural bench not one that can be removed like his... made some progress over the last few days so i'll put up some more pictures

also if anyone knows where i can find cheap navigation lights... i wanna find a whole kit with the green/red and the stern white light all in one

from what i can see they only sell them a la carte... and at 30 bucks a piece which im not liking very much, hopefully i can get started on the motor this weekend as well. i just wanna get her in the water already!!!!
 

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almost done with the new paint.. just need to do the trim in black... and more work to be done on the interior
it just sucks with the weather and having so much to do during the day
 

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Re: 1950 lone*star malibu rebuild

ss - Love the Lone*Star your working on, lots of character.

Use 2 batteries as other have said. I salvaged some old nav and anchor lights off an old junk fg boat for my Lone*Star fishing boat. I also replaced the old bulbs with led bulbs to minimize the draw.

My opinion is to find a nice period style nav light to keep your boat in style, my old Crosby has a fixture with fins and a flag mount, something like that would really set your bow off, it will be pricey.

Keep at it and have fun. Once your on the water you will have :D Perma-grin.
 

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Hi 64osby. Do you have any pics/descriptions of your LED bulb swap on your nav lights? Where can you get LED replacement bulbs for vintage bulb sockets? I'm intrigued. Also, per the OP earlier post, there are also detachable, battery powered Nav lights that just clamp in place. Not the prettiest thing in the world, but keeps wiring to a minimum.
 

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kfa - I don't know about vintage, but mine were 1157 sockets. These fit great in the anchor light and were a very tight fit in my nav fixture. I don't like the look of the detachable lights or having to rely upon small batteries. I typically don't but from overseas but...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-12V-36-LED-white-Car-1157-7528-2057-1016-Bulb-BAY15D-/170668442285?hash=item27bca1c2ad&item=170668442285&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_1115wt_754
 
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