1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

[kansasrockchalk]

First off, let me say this is a great forum...this being my first post and a member of many other forums I have to say my lurking has been a great experience so far.

I took the dive and bought a 1959 Glasspar Lido (Standard, I think) a couple weeks back for 50 bucks on CL. The plan is to completely restore it with my 2 oldest sons (fall/winter project). Obviously I have done a ton of reading and everyone has their own way of doing things. However, as a complete noob to doing a boat restore, one thing I have not seen is a list of tools essentials you will need to do such a job. Some are obvious, but I am speaking more of the power tools, since I may need to get one or two items before diving in so would love some feedback there.

Boat pics:

Again, great forum, great crowd and I look forward to contributing and showing you my process this winter.

 

[Rickairmedic]

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Tools of importance for a glass boat.

1. shop vac

2.respirator

3.tyvec suits with hoods

4. gloves

5. 4" or 4 & 1/2" grinder with regular grinding wheels and flap discs.

6. random orbital sander with assorted grits 40- 320




Rick

 

[CheapboatKev]

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Welcome Aboard..

I dont think there can be such a list exactly..

Every boat is different..Each one holds it's own nuances and flaws that need to be addressed.

First on any list needs to be a strong safety assesment.
Transom solid? If not start there.
Deck soft? If so tear her out WHILE doing the transom! lol
Stringers solid? Maybe not if the above 2 items are gone.
Holes, leaks, bad patches...It's really a never ending list...getting to the bottom of it is half the fun..

Good luck and thanks for being an ex-lurker! lol

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Ok, so I got after it tonight pretty good. Here she is, if anyone is interested...

Couple of questions came up though. I cut an exploratory hole in the floor to look at the stringers, here is some rough pics, from the looks of it I think they look good. They don't appear to be rotting in this spot atleast....if they continue to look like this do you think I am ok to leave them in? Did I get lucky?

More on next post.

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Continued from last post...

Next question....looks like they used some resin to attach the top of the boat to the hull. How can I get through this stuff to get the top off?

Last but not least...I am a total noob at this (first time) so go easy on me.

 

[redfury]

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

That boat had to been relatively well taken care of for exposed wood like that to be in that good of shape still! Especially for the age!

Hard to say exactly about the stuff sealing the cap....but you won't have to take it off if the transom is still good ( seemingly a good chance looking at the stringer in the center ).

You'll want to drill some holes into the transom down by the drainplug area to see if the wood is still dry. If it is, then the other place to check is around the bolt holes by the motor mount. If all that comes up clean, then you've got an easy fix and can leave the cap on.

If not, then you might have a struggle getting that off. Probably going to have to use a cut off wheel and slide it up between the cap and the hull to cut it apart. Usually that stuff breaks pretty easily, but it does do the job since it's not there for strength...just to keep the water out.

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

Re: Starting out...1959 Glasspar Lido

I live in Idaho, so not much precip and no humidity so I think that had something to do with it.

After feeling the transom some I think it is going to have to go as there are some soft spots I think. But not having to redo the stringers so far is a minor victory.

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

Got quite a bit done this weekend, some questions and pictures showing my progress.

Planned on tearing into the transom today thinking it would be a several day process.

Transom going out pretty fast, was able to save one of the 3 layers as a template.

Got the transom out, there seems to be some wood on there but it is completely smooth to touch. Not sure if I even need to take more off as the glass is right below the imprint of the wood.

Trying to decide how I am going to take this ledge (thick epoxy and glass holding floor down before) off...dremel and belt sander is the current plan.

More in next post.

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

There is this structure under the closed bow that I am not sure what to do with. I would like to cut it out and use it for storage on the finished product, but am worried it may be for the structure of the boat, what are your thoughts on this? If I remove it will I be sacrificing the integrity/strength of the hull?

Also, the very back end of the stringers near the transom had water damage, however as you can see in a previous post 95% of the remainder of the stringers are in perfect shape. I don't really want to rip them all up because the back end was in bad shape, is that necessary? Or can I reinforce the back end stringers somehow so I don't need to rip them out?

Thanks in advance for the help.

 

[Rickairmedic]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

That is a nice boat . Those look sweet with the cap painted a darker color and then white pinstripes in all the recesses on the Bow. They almost look like an Old wood Chris Craft when done up like tht .


Rick

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

That is a nice boat . Those look sweet with the cap painted a darker color and then white pinstripes in all the recesses on the Bow. They almost look like an Old wood Chris Craft when done up like tht .


Rick

Thanks Rick, the current plan, and I know this is not standard on these is to wood panel out the front with slats and then do a nice wood strip down the side. It's something I'm kicking around, we'll see....pretty far from that.

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

Forgot to mention to, the transom is curved and not straight...I am at a loss on this. Have not seen anything about curved transoms....how do you accomplish this?

 

[Rickairmedic]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

Kansas I am not a pro on this and I am sure one of the Glass boat guys will chime in soon but if it were me I would make a wooden buck that matches the curve of the transom or the piece you have sitting there . Then I would lay up as many layers of 1/4" plywood as it took to get the right thickness ( quickly ) and place 2X4's on the other side of them ( from the buck ) and clamp them together until they set up . Cut all your pieces first then coat them with resin as fast as fast can be and then clamp them up.


Rick

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

Not familiar with that method...a google search didn't turn up much. Is there any resources out there?

 

[Rickairmedic]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

Ok basically a buck would be 2X4's or 2X6's cut to match the curve of your transom from side to side 2X going longways across the transom then attatch them to a piece of 3/4" plywood so that the piece you have sitting there lays down on it nice and even once you have that take and cut out your layers of 1/4" plywood and glue them together 2 or 3 at a time and take more 2X4's or 2X6's and go top to bottom across the buck and use big clamps to hold everything together . Repeat as needed until you have the transom thickness you need .


Rick

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

Got it, another thing my buddy and I worked up was doing the 1/4 plywood like you were saying and clamping the top a layer at a time...and then fashioning some type of beam going across the hull to put 2x4's to push the bottom together. Just a thought. Hoping some other may chim in here as well to see if anyone has had some experience with a curved transom....and the other questions above. You have been awesome Rick, thanks again!

 

[Rickairmedic]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

No problem at ll thats what were all here for is to help each other work through our resto's ( by the time your done with this one ) You'll be helpin the new guys while you start your next one LOL you did know that part right once yoyu do one you will want to do more . The only things I know about curved trnsoms is what I have read on here and one thing I have come to understand is the basic method I gave you on the buck is the easiest way to do it and not have the transom go out of shape which would be a royal pain when you went to put the cap back on .

Rick

 

[redfury]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

If you want to get storage out of that triangular space up front, you can use a variety of things to do it, the easiest being a deck hatch. Cut the hole and secure the hatch!

That is going to give the nose of the boat rigidity, but if you cut a hole for access for storage, you won't lose integrity. If you are worried about it, you can always beef it up with some glass and wood laminated up inside the hole you made.

 

[kansasrockchalk]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

If you want to get storage out of that triangular space up front, you can use a variety of things to do it, the easiest being a deck hatch. Cut the hole and secure the hatch!

That is going to give the nose of the boat rigidity, but if you cut a hole for access for storage, you won't lose integrity. If you are worried about it, you can always beef it up with some glass and wood laminated up inside the hole you made.

I was thinking about taking it out completely, do you think that is an option? Or do you think something needs to be there? I didn't want to remove it if it was an important part of the structure.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1959 Glasspar Lido Restore

I think it looks structural. I wouldn't remove it. I agree with red's suggestion.