1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

martyt

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Ok, did just about everything to this old motor, had it running sweet!, for a short while.<br />fires up great runs good out of water, in water fires up everytime runs and idles good, give it throtle and wants to choke and bogg down mess with choke and throtle at same time and it wants to pick up but cannot get more than 2 grand out of her? new points, condensers, rotor, plugs, cleaned all carbs, at my wits end :mad: please help..........
 

bubbakat

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

hows the compression and recheck all your fuel system and make sure you don't have an obstruction
 

The Marine Doctor

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

Squirt some oil into the carbs as well and see if it picks up. Also..check the timing.<br /><br />TMD
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

martyt; As long as you've been giving it plenty of oil(you asked the amount a while back)it sounds like a fuel supply problem as bubbukat spoke! Does it pick up when your first mate hits the primer bulb? If so, cleaning the lines will put you back in the running. BTW, if they're really bad with a heavy blockage, even that may not help. :)
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

when squeezing the bulb it boggs down more?<br />replaced several lines with new, cleaned carbs twice, plugs twice, seems to be getting plenty of fuel?, mixing fuel oil ratio at 50:1 ....<br />im thinking carbs also as i keep going back to them with no luck with adjustments and cleaning :confused: <br /><br />thanks for the replys :D <br />Martyt
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

When sqeezing the bulb it gets worse.<br /><br />When you cleaned the carbs...did you replace the needle,seats and floats?<br /><br />TMD
 

martyt

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

didn't replace needle seats, they seemed ok?, i have another engine that i did swap 1 float out of and replaced, cleaned needle seats extensively.
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

when u squeeze bulb, is there any fuel leaking out<br />the front of the carbs? sounds like a stuck float<br />to me... tap on side of bowl with but of screwdriver<br />sometimes will unstick the float.<br />good luck,<br />M.Y.
 

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martyt: The float that you salvaged from the other engine may not have been a large improvement because of its age. The plastic floats from the days of early polymer chemistry are marginal at best. When you try to float them in gasoline to see if they're any good, it's hard to determine the answer. Newer, oxygenated auto gasolines have lower density making the problem worse-if you're using them in Ohio.<br />Can you get a new set of floats? And, are the fuel filter screens installed in your carb inlets? If the screens aren't there, then your carb cleaning was very temporary after replacing all the fuel lines and shaking lose decades of crud buildup. If the sceeens are there and don't have any holes or crud buildup, they're good as is. You can tell for yourself if the carbs need to be cleaned again.<br />I found on mine that new needles and seats didn't look any better than the old ones. That leaves floats to be fixed. If you'd like proof that the floats are the problem before buying them(prepaid to be sure), try having your first mate pull the fuel connector from the engine while bogged down at 2000 or so and then hang on to something. If the floats are the problem, it will soon pickup, maybe big time!! If it does, shut it down IMMEDIATELY, NOW, and consider this your proof. (Remember, some of it will be running very deficient of oil for these moments.) If you have trouble getting the floats, let me know. Also, let us know how this turns out.<br />I know this old beast is trying your patience, but, hang onto it. As I recall, the acquisition price was pretty good. After long neglect, it takes a little while for all its needs to surface. I'm sure-and mellowyellow will back me up on this-that you'll find this old straight six easy to live with. Especially, if you budget for plenty of gasoline!!! :)
 

martyt

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

the screens are all there as a matter of fact new also, ok going to hunt down some floats for this old beast.<br />going to do it this weekend, most places around here never stock anything for this motor seems to take a week or more to get anything. will post my progress.<br /><br />Thanks for the help and replys everyone.<br />martyt
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

Back in the Saddle again, took all three carbs off cleaned and soaked, got a gasket kit and new needles and seats, the floats looked fine with an exception of 1 more float with a bent spring?<br />replaced, the area under the cork gaskets for the screens were pretty nasty with some serious bulid up of loose chalky debries cleaned and replaced gaskets, put all back together, took her out yesterday and low an behold no more boggy down! <br />WHEW HOO!! :D <br />has just a little spitting a sputtering at wot back off throtle and comes out of it?<br />a little sluggish and slow getting up to full throtle, not as snappy as was at first but not bogging down like it was. I will continue tweeking and tuning as for this motor has made me devote my life to it without even trying...... <br /><br />Thanks Again for all the help<br />martyt
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

glad you reposted and it is coming alive for you.<br />I have a 70 model 50 h/p that i am also in the process of rebuilding the carbs was having similar prob those old beasts were go to go when they were right
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

they are deffinately thirsy girls and don't behave<br />well when they don't get their fuel... way to stick<br />with it :) <br />now you need to adjust the mixture. try about 2<br />turns out from lightly seated.<br />safe boating,<br />M.Y.
 

martyt

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

tweeking the carbs, when adjustng the carbs i'm finding out that it runs best at about 1 to 1 1/2 turns out? or more but idles high is this ok or is something else going on here.<br />none of the carbs are equal in the way of adjustment tunrs in and out, i thought syncronizing ment they should all be same?<br />also this may be normal but i'm finding that is usng more fuel than did before? may just be the nature of the beast.......<br /><br />Thanks <br />martyt<br /><br />if i had the chance i'd buy 10 more of these
 

martyt

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

i should have mentioned the tach reading, it was around 1200-1500 rpm. should'nt it be around 500?
 

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Re: 1965 merc 1000 100hp Boggs Down?

martyt: 500-600 is about right,in gear! Slow it back down( if tach is right) by backing off distributor stop screw. It must let out a hell of a crunch when you drop it into gear. Get idle speeds ballparked before finalizing mixture settings. <br />Variation in mixture screw positions sounds strange like some but not all carbs are flooding over. Stay with it!! :)
 
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