1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

mikmic2

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Hello all. <br /><br />I have a 1967 Johnson 20hp that runs good.<br /><br />Anyways, the driveshaft bushing is shot. Actually this has two driveshaft bushings. One is up towards the water pump and it is rather large. One is down in the gear case and is smaller. How does one extract these. I consider myself stongly mechanically inclined having worked on engines all of my 43 years of life. <br /><br />Another thing I don't see is the seal that would stop water from coming down from the water pump into the lower unit. It appears that there is just that large bushing, unless there was an 0-ring inside the top of that bushing that I missed. <br /><br />I have read about making the pullers with threaded rods, big nails and such, but this lower unit doesn't seem to fit the bill of most of what I have read, as you can't get to the other end of the bushing to tap them out. This looks more like a job for the tool you have to use to get the driveshaft bearing out of an old mercruiser, but only on a much smaller scale. I actually did make one of those, it didn't take long, and it actually worked. <br /><br />I have a clymer manual for this engine, but I suppose you know that they do not cover bushing removals, nor do they do a very good job of covering the specific models. The book says, your model may or may not have all the parts listed, and junk like that. <br /><br />Any ideas on what the actual tool looks like? I have the tools here to make just about anything I need, but would like an idea on what it looks like. <br /><br />Thanks in advance for any help.
 

mikmic2

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

Now I see how to sign up for an e-mail notification when someone responds. But I had to post again to activate it.
 

OBJ

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

My parts breakdown here at home only goes to 68', but looking at the 18hp gearcase, I don't see any bushing in the parts list. The parts list has the gear case labled as "Gear Case and Bearing Assembly". I have never pulled one of these bushings before but perhaps one of the other guys have.<br /><br />Subsequent gear cases use needle bearings instead of bushings. Don't know for sure but possibly you may be able to sub a bearing for the bushing.
 

mikmic2

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

Thanks for the reply. It should have read 20hp instead of 25hp. I did edit it. <br /><br />I don't think it matters though as I think they are the same.
 

DHPMARINE

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

I don't think the bushings are meant to be pulled or replaced.They are cast into the housing.Other than replacing the housing,maybe you could look into boring the bushing and sleeving it to the size you need.Also there should be a seal at the top of the housing (above the bushing) to keep water out of the gear oil.<br /><br />DHP
 

mikmic2

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

Thanks. <br />Sounds like I should just try to find another lower unit for it.<br /><br />If I was to try to get it bored, where would I find the bushings to put in there?<br /><br />Any ideas?
 

R.Johnson

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

More than likely, your problem is not just with the bushing's. You probably have a sprung gearcase, that is what cause's the severe wear on the bushing's. If you can find one, the gearcase from any 25 made up through the 70's will bolt right on. This is a much heavier casting than the one you have. My son, and I have a 57,and 58, 18HP that we run on our local river. I replaced the gearcase on both with the 25 unit's. As DHPMARINE pointed out, those bushings' are cast in.
 

Baston

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

Greetings<br />I had the same issue with a 1959 Evinrude 10Hp. Lower unit gears were trashed and the lower unit bearing was worn oval. The bearing is a cast in bronze sleeve. The drive shaft from the power head to the lower unit was badly worn as well. I found a set of gears for the lower unit and figured that I couldn't do any more damage to the unit as it was so I did the following.<br />I turned the drive shaft down, so that the all the worn parts were smooth. I then turned an oversized sleeve with a nice press fit, with a few holes drilled in it.<br />I then pressed the sleeve on to the drive shaft and filled the holes with welded, then I turned the sleeve done to the final size.<br />For the lower unit, I bolted it loosely to a drill press table and ran an over size reamer through the worn bearing. I then turned a pressfit oilite sleeve and pressed in into the reamed out bearing. <br />I then installed the resleeved shaft in the lower unit and run the shaft on a slow speed in the drill press with lots of oil to wear in the bearing.<br />To date everything had been great.<br />The hardest part was getting over the fear of screwing up the lower unit. But my wife put it all into prospective with one comment. "You can't break it any worse."<br /><br />John
 

jfm1

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Re: 1967 Johnson 20hp Lower unit Bushings

there is a seal under the waterpump housing and a o-ring up top of the waterpump for the drive shaft. don't remember any bushing I think the seal you get with the kit has [2] to replace the one from factory' turn one upsidedown
 
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