1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

james33

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

Hey guys
a few days ago i posted a reply in another's thread and feel rather guilty for it. So now i am going to start my own thread and hope for some good advice to get my motor running in good shape. My motor is a 1974 mercury 200 20 Hp outboard. Originally it was a tiller but my grandfather converted it to up-front steering and throttle. 2 or 3 years ago my boat sank over night and the next day i was able to pull it out of the lake and with a few days of work I got the engine running. Just this past summer I decided to try and get the boat back in the water for the season and noticed that the motor wouldn't circulate water. I replaced the impeller and even then I only got the motor to dribble water out of the "pee hole". My second issue was the throttle. One weekend I could get the motor to full throttle without any effort. The next weekend I went to try it out the motor and i could only get 1/2-2/3 throttle out of the engine. If anyone could help me would greatly appreciate it because at 17 years of age its quite difficult to find money for a marina to fix the motor.

Thanks.
James
 

james33

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

no i dont have a spark checker...and if Motor Boator Bill sees this i just wanted to let him know that yes the last time i ran the motor the side of the block felt quite cool....My self and da1nonlysteven have been working tediously on this motor and that is one of the things i specifically remember...
 

Motor Boater Bill

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Cool on the side is good, have you cleared the pee hole and hose? I have been amazed at how much mud the bugs can pack into that hose. You have to pull the hose off and ream it out with a long wire.
 

james33

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i havent tried that yet due to the engine being up north at my cottage...but while i am home i would like to find out various ways to trouble shoot my throttle issue....i know that both cylinders are firing because when in reverse i can advance to full trhottle
 

james33

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

and how long can the engine be run with that kind of circulation?
 

james33

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I will try that the second i get up north this spring...i would also like to know how far teh throttle body should be advancing in foreward gear... right now the throttle advances just as far in foreard as it does in reverse...and also how do you tune the timing of the engine? sorry if i sound like a begginer because other than changing fuel filters and spark plugs i have no clue how to work on these motors
 

da1nonlysteven

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

I have been working on this project with james33...

To Expand:

-The throttle linkage inside of the motor itself advances (Forward) just as far as it does in reverse. Is this normal?

-Also it seems to have a sticky/ solid spot when you advance the throttle by the mercontrol (About 3/4 according to james33[ This is in forward only]) We think that this may be why the motor is not advancing further

-Is there any diagrams/values etc. On the movements and measurements of this throttle linkage? And if so where can they be found?

-How do you tell if the engine needs tuned and if so is there an easy way to do this with simple tools?

Any Help would be appreciated....
I hope you can answer all of our questions....

Thanks...
 

8075mercury

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

I have recently rebuilt a 74 20 and also rebuilt a number of other 20 Mercurys. The 20 of this vintage is a classic motor.

Anyway, I suggest the following:
-Get a factory service manual direct from Mercury or on ebay. A compression gauge and timing light plus an ohm meter are useful for a tuneup.
-Agree with the post on rodding out the pee hole.
-Make sure you change the water pump impeller every couple of years, particularly if it sits up.
-Suggest you take the cover off and watch the mechanism as you move it into forward and wide open and then into reverse. Spray some WD40 if stiff.
-Make sure it hits one of the stop screws for idle and the other stop screw for wide open throttle. The neutral stop adjustment will limit throttle travel in neutral and also limit throttle travel in reverse. When you shift into forward, the neutral stop adjustment will swing out of the way and allow the throttle to go completely forward and hit the stop screw. Also, make sure the trigger is moving freely so the advance is working properly.
-Also check the plastic pin connected to the carb shutter for proper position at wide open throttle. The carb shutter should be slightly less than completely open at wide open throttle.
-I double checked just now and my 20 will only run at part throttle in reverse because the neutral stop adjustment limits travel.

Hope this helps. A service manual shows pictures of all of this.

Good luck.
 

james33

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

Thank you very much for the advice. This is my first project and id love to see this motor as a reliable back-up motor. Thanks again
 

Motor Boater Bill

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First, all of what 8075 says above is right on. Second, regarding tuning, there are two different approaches to it on this motor, which in terms of timing is really a matter of setting the relationship between the linkage and the trigger. I think (I'd have to check this) that the factory manual only gives the procedure for setting with a timing light, and the aftermarket manual gives the procedure for setting it by clearances at various settings with the motor off. I use the factory manual for most things, but liked the aftermarket for simplicity on this. You also need to look carefully at the whole linkage as you move it--there are bushings in there that tend to get lost or not replaced when the motor is worked on (especially when you remove the rewind, look where the front bolt for the rewind goes, on the side away from the shifter, it holds part of the linkage there). Also, the plastic pin that runs in a long curved slot (look for this) can wear and make that part of the linkage loose. Both affect the trigger movement, and the trigger, rather than the carb, is what slows the engine at idle (the butterfly does not open until you have already begun to advance the timing, at idle retarding the timing further is what slows the motor after the butterfly is closed). I hope this makes sense, you'll have to be looking at the motor to see what I'm talking about, I think. I'll agree with the post above on one more thing--the 20's of this vintage are indeed nice motors in my opinion, pretty easy to work on and very solid. Collecing spare ignition parts on eBay helps with troubleshooting (swap and try), otherwise ignition parts can be tricky to diagnose and pricey. But it sounds like you've got good fire, so on with the show!
 

james33

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

Thanks alot for the advice...in just a few weeks i should get to try this out as soon as the snow is gone from my cottage....hopefully by then i will have my new boat also....and if i have problem with that one...expect a message from me....thanks again guys
 

cmartman46

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Hi! I'm a newbee on here. I hope I'm in the right section. If not could someone steer me correct.
I just purchased a Kiekhaefer Mercury 20 H.P outboard. serial#2831096.Not sure what year? Can someone tell me what year this model,serial# is?
The carb parts (needles and brass plugs)are in a plastic bag. The fellow I bought it from never took the time to put it back together. He said that the engine had a miss so he took the carb apart to clean it but never got around to finish. Can someone send me a carb diagram and settings and tune up procedure. I do have a timing light and ohm meter tester.
Compression indicates 120 PSI in each cylinder. Should I pull head off to decarb? Is it hard to change impeller?
Just got laid off,so I am trying to keep my mind occupied.
Thanks for any replies!
 

green4themoney

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Re: 1974 Mercury 200 (20HP) Troubles

Hi! I'm a newbee on here. I hope I'm in the right section. If not could someone steer me correct.
I just purchased a Kiekhaefer Mercury 20 H.P outboard. serial#2831096.Not sure what year? Can someone tell me what year this model,serial# is?
The carb parts (needles and brass plugs)are in a plastic bag. The fellow I bought it from never took the time to put it back together. He said that the engine had a miss so he took the carb apart to clean it but never got around to finish. Can someone send me a carb diagram and settings and tune up procedure. I do have a timing light and ohm meter tester.
Compression indicates 120 PSI in each cylinder. Should I pull head off to decarb? Is it hard to change impeller?
Just got laid off,so I am trying to keep my mind occupied.
Thanks for any replies!

Yours is a 1970..... talk to laddies for the exploded diagrams he helped me out with my ignition system..... you dont need to pull the head for doing any carb work.... and changing ure impeller you will have to drop your lower unit.... the water pump sits on top of the gear case
 
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