1975 Evinrude 25 problem - jumping out of gear and/or blown head gasket?

acabtp

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I have been working on this new to me 1975 Evinrude 25 (25503B) recently. Compression numbers were 124 top/118 bottom and it fired right up once I got it home, so I decided it was worth a little work to get back on the water. Unfortunately when I finally took it out for a boat test, I was getting some pretty bad thumps from the motor.

Here's a couple videos that show what was happening:
http://youtu.be/AI9u_jTz438
http://youtu.be/HacPYde5Pxo
That was nowhere near full throttle, I was just revving it out slowly when it started acting up

I thought it might have been jumping out of gear, so I held onto the shift lever, but that didn't make any difference nor did I feel anything through the lever while it was going on. I would have thought that the engine would rev when the lower unit jumped out of gear, but as you can see it actually lugged and then ran rough a bit. This had me consider that maybe I had blown a head gasket instead and was getting some water in the cylinder under heavier loads.

Service I had just performed included (all OEM parts) new points set at .020, condensers, spark plugs gapped to .030, carb fully stripped, cleaned & rebuilt, fuel pump rebuilt, water pump w/ housing replaced, thermostat, thermostat gaskets, lower unit pressure tested (and passed), and lower unit lube changed. Motor was running great in the test tank, but this was the first time I had it out under a real load.

When I got home, I drained the lower unit lube and it was pretty dark like syrup, much darker than I would have expected from a 0.6 hour test run (I have an hour meter). I am letting it sit to see if it separates and I got any water in there.

I pulled the spark plugs (with 0.6 hours on them) and this is what they looked like. Top plug on top, bottom plug on bottom:
spark%20plugs.jpg

The bottom plug does have a bit of that 'steam cleaned' look, so I think something is going on in the bottom cylinder.

I did a compression test and was surprised with the results... Still 124 up top, but now 140 on the bottom cylinder. I didn't really know what to make of that.

Was really a bummer of a test, this thing had been running great in the tank. Thoughts? Bad lower unit and head gasket blown, or something else entirely? Suggestions what to check next?

Thanks
 
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F_R

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That motor absolutely is jumping out of gear, due to worn out clutch dog and probably forward gear too. I've seen too many of them doing that to have any doubt. If it isn't jiggling the shifter lever, it may have beaten the shift linkage to death too. That's what happens when somebody lets it keep on jumping to the point of destruction.

The jump occurs when the dog disengages from the gear, the gear rotates half a turn and it slams back together. Every time it does that, the violent pounding causes even more wear.

I find no fault with the plugs. The lower one may have a bit of flaked-off carbon on it.
 

acabtp

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Thank you kindly. I figured the video would make it clear to someone who had seen it before (I hadn't). I just pressure tested the seals on a spare lower unit (seems good) so I will swap that in and see. Thanks again
 
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