1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

[iloveketchup]

i'm trying to do a water pump / removal of the gearcase on a 1976 powerhead on top of a 1978 mid/lower.

Am i supposed to take out the third bolt / whole linkage to let the shift rod down?!?!

It's way in there and will be a mess to try and get back on.



It's hard to believe they'd design this so poorly to have to try to somehow work in that area. The manual i have is a little vague because it's for many johnson models. Evin if the third nut is removed, the whole linkage would have to come off in order to allow it to move forward and off the bolt. meaning the 2nd nut, the cotter pin up the throttle/vertical linkage, and so on.

My thought is the answer is "yes"

my shifter is in reverse as the manual claims. even if the nut is off, the bolt has nowhere to go. it's backed on the block. This isn't making sense.

advice?

edit:

friend told me to loosen the center "bell something" bolt on the hoizontal double linkage and the end should pop off. i used a little dentist like mirror and not seeing how that would happen. there is just a bolt and what appears an eye at the top of the shift rod. Hm... the plot thickens.

 

[boobie]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Somebody has added that third bolt over the years. The only thing I can tell you is take all the nuts and bolts off that you see in the pict, split the linkage and maybe get the g/c off. The furthest bolt in your pict doesn't belong there. That was not an OMC design. That bolt goes through your upper shift linkage for the g/c.

 

[boobie]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Go to Shop.Evinrude.com and look up the parts diagrams on your mtr. You'll get a better idea of what your upper linkage looks like. Sounds like your manual isn't very good

 

[iloveketchup]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Somebody has added that third bolt over the years. The only thing I can tell you is take all the nuts and bolts off that you see in the pict, split the linkage and maybe get the g/c off. The furthest bolt in your pict doesn't belong there. That was not an OMC design. That bolt goes through your upper shift linkage for the g/c.

I think you're right.. if i'm really careful, i can probably remove that center bell housing bolt along and up to the other nuts/cotter pin. If i knock out the nut on the end (it's lose).... ewww.... how would i slide the shift linkage off the thread part of the hex bolt... even with the double linkage off?

i bet the dunce that put this together prior to me swapped the powerhead (i think it's a 76') and before doing so decided to put a bolt in there. I'd hope this doesn't require removing the whole powerhead....

Normally when this is split, what goes through there? there has to be something that keeps the rod in place/gives it support while shifting. :scratches head:




it almost looks as if part number 77 has a pressed in bolt on the far side (pointing towards engine)



:facepalm:

 

[Daviet]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

If I remember correctly, there was a pressed in pin as you said.

 

[boobie]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

There was a pressed in pin on part # 77 on the end where it hooked to the g/c shift link. Bushing # 22 is also critical to have in the upper g/c linkage. You'll have to find the right parts to make it correct. Really simple to take apart if somebody didn't cobble it up.

 

[iloveketchup]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Somebody has added that third bolt over the years. The only thing I can tell you is take all the nuts and bolts off that you see in the pict, split the linkage and maybe get the g/c off. The furthest bolt in your pict doesn't belong there. That was not an OMC design. That bolt goes through your upper shift linkage for the g/c.

i think this is the part i need:



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the dunce before me put a bolt instead of that pin. it's probably pressed in. "lets just use a bolt.

So if i bought that part used, and just took the front link off.... and replace it with this one... oh crap... the bolt is still there.

 

[Daviet]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Notice on the used part pictured that the pins on both ends are attached to the inside half of the bracket, they kind of "clamshell" togeather. Once installed you do not have to hold anything to install the nut. That is what you need.

 

[iloveketchup]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Notice on the used part pictured that the pins on both ends are attached to the inside half of the bracket, they kind of "clamshell" togeather. Once installed you do not have to hold anything to install the nut. That is what you need.

aye... i'll probably go to the local marine outboard junkyard to see if i can finaggle one of those brackets. the guys there tend to have parts laying around too so maybe i'll get lucky. worse case i may have to dismantle things.

I'm just hoping to get that bolt out doesn't require something crazy like pulling the powerhead.

 

[ledgefinder]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

Consider pulling the carbs. It's not hard, and then the shift linkage is very easy to work with.

 

[iloveketchup]

Re: 1976 evinrude shift rod location... how to get back on and off?

the nut on the.... "nonstandard" design is easy to get off... i can poke it with my finger and spin it. it's getting the bolt out. the bolt is about 1" long and there doesn't appear to be 1" of clearance behind it. If he would have put the bolt in from the front of the engine, and threaded into the nut, the nut would just have fell down... easy removal.

my worries are this guy i bought the engine off of did this when swapping the powerhead. Potentially why he sold the engine.

I'm getting some coffee and may give it a shot.