1976 johnson problem Please Help

B-Rad

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Hi Im new here, I just bought a 1976 johnson 35 hp outboars model # 35E76G and im having a graemlin problem. first I found that I had no spark on the top cylinder, then after changing the points,condensers,and coil packs and plugs I found that it ran great while in a bucket or with the muffs, but when I get out on the water and try the boat with 3 people in with me the boat will just buck its self along not coming on plane or getting her RPM's up it will just run along with low RPM's( I dont have a tach) and every few seconds jump up (kick in) for a second and then continue to run logy, the "kick in" feeling feels to me like a big bang on the back of the boat as the motor jumps, I have done a compression test and it told me 150psi in the top cylinder and 145-150 in the bottom I done this 4 times and consistant readings, I have cleaned the carb and frequently replaced the gas, and now im ran out of Ideas. this phenomon dosent happen as bad when I am alone in the boat it seems to run fine except for every now and then the motor still bucks but not as abrupt and as voilent. im guessing strain is an issue for my problem but dont know where to go from here.
 
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DJ

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

You may have two things going on here.<br /><br />1. You have a cylinder coming on and then dropping out. Got a timing light? If so, attach the inductive lead to one plug at a time and see which one may be dropping out.<br /><br />2. Your lower unit clutch dog may be slipping/grabbing.<br /><br />Check # 1 first.
 

umblecumbuz

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

Or alternatively - if the motor has now been fixed, are we looking at a boat handling problem?<br /><br />Are you familiar with boat-handling, B-Rad, or is this your first boat as well as the motor?
 

B-Rad

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

this is my first boat and motor, I just purchased it about 2 months ago, I see the timing marks in the flywheel but how do I use them to deal with timing? also I have never set up any type of points setup before so im not sure if its done right I got them set to 0.020 in or 20 thousands with the feeler guage so I think I got it right as for timing i dont know if I got a problem there or not but it seems to run fine,<br /><br /><br />Also anyone know where I can find out how to properly set up my carb.
 

CATransplant

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

I believe that should be .020 inches, not millimeters. I suspect that you used the proper feeler gauge, anyhow, since .02mm is a very, very small gap. Probably a misunderstanding.
 

B-Rad

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

whats the "clutch dog"? are they hard to replace or expensive to buy new?
 

NJHARLEYMAN

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

I just had the same dogging problem with my 55hp Evinrude. I fixed it by buying a new fuel line from the tank to the motor. If the primer bulb doesn't get hard this may be your problem. the motor works on a vacuum and with a tiny hole in any of the fuel line will cause this problem.Hope this helps.
 

B-Rad

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Re: 1976 johnson problem Please Help

thanks ill try that, anything else to look at?
 
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