1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

tallcanadian

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Okay, so I just bought a 1976 Merc 85 hp outboard. Very nice motor. But I'm looking for a diagram of how the power trim pump lines are suppose to be ran. It has the external pump. Also any wiring diagram, etc, would be appriciated. The motor runs great and compression is 130 on 2 cylinders and 125 on the other 2. Any insight would also be appreciated.
 

Texasmark

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

Current systems, which may resemble the older systems but are different as one pump cylinder is used whereas on the older ones a cylinder was on each side of the engine and I don't remember where the pump was....maybe attached to inside of the transom.

The trim is nothing more than a bi directional (pair of) hydraulic cylinder(s) with a couple of popoff valves to satisfy things like trim vs the lower pressure tilt, and trim and tilt limits. Trim only runs about -4 to +20 degrees of engine angle and the tilt part (low pressure) runs it on up to 40 or thereabouts. If you have it in the tilt position and goose it the tilt popoff will activate and the engine will be forced down to the upper limit of trim. This for your and my safety.

The motor that generates the hydraulic pressure is a dc motor which can be reversed by reversing the voltage to it. The motor pumps hydraulic fluid OUT of a sump, located wherever the pump is mounted, to raise, and pumps it BACK to lower the engine. You have to have positive control of the fluid due to trim being bi-directional. Tilt could be just a single valve raising the engine with pressure and letting it off to allow the engine to fall via gravity.

So you have two solenoids wired with the + and - of the motor connected to + and - battery voltage at different times which determine if the pump is going to run cw or ccw and run the piston(s) out or in.

The separate solenoids don't use as much current as the starter, but more than is normally carried by regular electrical wiring so they will have larger wires to carry the drive currents as compared be the solenoid control input wiring from the TT switch.

The control for the solenoids will be ground (for both control returns at the relays) and on current systems it is the blue (blue/white stripe maybe) wire to energize the UP solenoid (relay for short), and the DOWN relay is via the green or green/wh. The voltage that is sent down the respective wire comes from the trim switch where it also has a red wire (3 wires total to the switch) which is the 12v power input, fused from the battery via the engine. The switch just determines which relay gets energized.

looking at the business end of the relays, following the wiring you should note that 12v and ground go to both relays, but the outputs are wired opposite so that (as stated) one will drive the motor cw and the other ccw.

On fluid, the rule from Merc is: If red use ATF, if clear use Merc/QS PTT fluid. Just match what is already in the sump. Full is normally even with the bottom of the fill plug threads.....in short if you had the plug out to fill it and put any more fluid in the sump it would run out the fill hole.

Ok, now you have the inputs for a general understanding. Go for it and if you have a problem ask.



Mark
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

Here is a link to an installation manual for the kit with the two outside trim cylinders. Might help you. Pump installation starts about page 21.

Do you have a two or three wire pump? Another post a while back had wiring diagrams for both but I don't remember who posted the diagram.

Hope some of this helps. Thought you had a CMC TnT or am I confused with another member?

EDIT - Oops the link Mercury Outboard Tilt Manual. I just saw they have made that a pay site or they changed the download or something. You can still view it.
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

Thanks guys, much appreciated. Hey GA, you forgot to paste the link. I did have a CMC on my last boat that I re did. If this pump doesn't work, I will be buying another one. I think this one is a three wire pump?? I think.
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

I edited the link in. Old man here. :facepalm:
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

You guys are awesome. Now I have another question. The motor is suppose to be a '76 but I can't find a match on the serial number. It's a Canadian number, 7091946.
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

I looked at MaxRules site at the year chart. I see why. The Canadian numbers don't seem right with the same start numbers for multiple years. I'm stumped too, TC. That's the only site with CA numbers as far as I know. Maybe member Carholme can help.
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

I looked at MaxRules site at the year chart. I see why. The Canadian numbers don't seem right with the same start numbers for multiple years. I'm stumped too, TC. That's the only site with CA numbers as far as I know. Maybe member Carholme can help.

It's the first time that I've had a problem finding a number. It's either 76 or 77. I will investigate further...
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

I'm not sure what you are seeing but to me it looks like a 77 model year.

Starting s/n 7071373 is a 76, and starting s/n 7091098 is a 77.
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

Mount the trim pump anywhere in the boat that is convenient. The PTT unit may have one or two solenoids. If one solenoid the wiring for the down circuit will be heavier than the wiring for the up circuit. Motor will have three wires with black being ground. The trim limit switch is probably bad. You can jumper the wiring harness to bypass it.
 

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

For that style of pump, like mine, here is the wiring diagram and bleeding instructions.
 

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tallcanadian

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Re: 1976 Merc 850 Power Trim wiring diagram

Thanks for the info and the help, I need all the help I can get. I'm really hopin that the pump is good. If not, I can always get another CMC power trim unit.
 
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