1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

bianchija

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I have a 1978 Boston Whaler with an OMC package. Up until this week it’s ran great.

I took it out a couple weeks ago after having run in at my house for about 45 minutes at high RPM’s. It ran perfect. Coolant levels were normal. Oil was fresh…and still is. Temperature was low…it hadn’t been running long enough to get up too high. Everything was running great. I launched…still no problem. We slowly worked away from the launch, and then I hit the gas. We got up on plane, and about 1 minute later the engine died. A slight hiss occurred as it died, as I though a coolant line may have split (it was that type of noise). I pulled the engine cover and everything looked clean. So, I tried to crank it, but it would only slowly turn (it acted as if my battery was about dead and it only had enough juice to make it crank, but not enough to actually turn over). I did this about 5 or 6 times before it stopped, permanently. Now I can’t get the crank shaft to turn at all, even with an impact wrench. It’s locked up.

I pulled the fuel pump out and felt the timing chain. It’s really loose, so I have an outside hope that it jumped off the teeth and jammed the engine? That would be an easy fix. But, more than likely the thing probably seized? I pulled the push rods and tested the top side of the engine…everything seems fine. Therefore, it’s something in the lower end and the whole thing will likely need to be rebuilt. I’m a rookie with this stuff, but I’ve been reading my manual and this seems to be the most likely situation?

Has anyone heard of a situation like this? Does it sound common? Assuming it’s toast, is the engine relatively easy to remove?

I’d love to do the work myself to learn a bit more about the boat, but I don’t want to get in over my head.

Thanks for the help!

Joe
 

tommays

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

i would pull the sparkplugs ASAP and DONT use the inpact wrench :(

It sounds like you have water in the cylinders and your need to do this ASAP to get the motor turning and push out the water

tommays
 

Haut Medoc

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

Do what Tom says Immediately!
Then you can find out the why it did what it did......
How old are the manifolds/risers & are you raw water or Closed cooled......
Have you checked the coolant level since the incident?......JK
 

bianchija

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

I pulled the spark plugs the afternoon this happened. That was my initial thought as well. With all of them removed is still does not turn. the crank shaft is stuck.

The manifolds and risers are old, but in decent shape. It's closed cooled...there's a heat exchanger on the front.

The RPM level was about 3000. Not too high, but high enough that where I thought I could work out the kinks.

Thanks for the help everyone!
 

tommays

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

Then the next step is to pull the outdrive as a lot of them STOP from low oil :( and will lockup the motor rock solid

tommays
 

bianchija

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

Hmmm...alright, i'll give it a shot. However, I cheked the oil levels and they are full...and it's clean. No water in the fluid. Also, I can spin the prop easliy by hand.

Further, the outdrive can be separated from the engine when it's raised. I have raised it all the way so they are not connected and the eninge still won't spin.

Regardless, I'll take a look tonight.

Thanks for the help!

Joe
 

qaztwo

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

Try turning the engine the other way using the fly wheel.
good luck.
 

Boomyal

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Re: 1978 OMC Ford 302 Dead...

bianchija said:
Further, the outdrive can be separated from the engine when it's raised. I have raised it all the way so they are not connected and the eninge still won't spin.

WRONG! The ball gears are still engaged when the outdrive is in the full up position. Even if it is in neutral the motor is linked up thru the upper gear housing.
 
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