1982 Johnson outboard 60 hp 2 cly had a cracked carburetor float

rodpaulrod

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I was doing a carburetor job partly cleaning and i did have a car kit mailed to me just in case i needed some parts. Noticed the float in the carburetor was cracked, almost missed it. So I used the new float that came with the kit got it in there a new float. Seems to be running a little better. Will not know for sure if it made a difference, till I try it out a few times. It was running pretty good with that cracked float so not sure how thought accept it would stall when it was in idle speed neutral. So i cleaned the carburetor too checked and did not see any dirt in it or notice anything that i might of did to help it run accept for I replaced the old cracked float.
 

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Those floats can ingest fuel if they are cracked , this causes them to not float so well ( or at all ) , the fuel level in the bowl gets to high and the motor will run rich , which maybe why it was stalling at idle .
2 strokes can handle a bit much fuel at higher throttle settings so it may well have run ok .
Sounds to me like you have had a win here
I had a similar deal with a weber carb on a car , sept I didnt see the crack the 1st 10 times I worked on it . I only twigged when I parked the car facing up a steep driveway , which put the ( already flooded )float chamber higher than the venturis and the fuel was flowing out of the float chamber vent and straight down the carb so much so the motor belched a lot of black smoke and then wouldnt run at all .
 

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Those floats can ingest fuel if they are cracked , this causes them to not float so well ( or at all ) , the fuel level in the bowl gets to high and the motor will run rich , which maybe why it was stalling at idle .
2 strokes can handle a bit much fuel at higher throttle settings so it may well have run ok .
Sounds to me like you have had a win here
I had a similar deal with a weber carb on a car , sept I didnt see the crack the 1st 10 times I worked on it . I only twigged when I parked the car facing up a steep driveway , which put the ( already flooded )float chamber higher than the venturis and the fuel was flowing out of the float chamber vent and straight down the carb so much so the motor belched a lot of black smoke and then wouldnt run at all .
I was wondering about that did not notice any fuel in the float. So after reading what you said decided to finish breaking it open to see what i could see and this float is not hollow inside. it is like a cork that why i did not notice any gas in there when i was looking at it and maybe was not as big of a problem like i thought it could be. But I thinking it should be much better with a new float i did have adjust this new one i put it by bending it some to set it proper. I did notice the floats was sitting in there of and i fixed that.
I was think the float was hollow in side. LOL.
 

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I was wondering about that did not notice any fuel in the float. So after reading what you said decided to finish breaking it open to see what i could see and this float is not hollow inside. it is like a cork that why i did not notice any gas in there when i was looking at it and maybe was not as big of a problem like i thought it could be. But I thinking it should be much better with a new float i did have adjust this new one i put it by bending it some to set it proper. I did notice the floats was sitting in there of and i fixed that.
I was think the float was hollow in side. LOL.
Well the weber had a black fine open cell foam inside , (looks just like yours ) that did soak up fuel , coz thats how I twigged . I had carb parts all over the place and was having a wee tidy up and I picked up the float and thought it felt heavier than I expected , and when I squeezed it fuel squirted out the crack that I hadnt yet seen, fmd ! ..............There was a brass float option available from weber so I went that way ( different float height setting for the brass one )
I think the start with a bit of foam the right shape , then attach the tang by stabbing it into the foam and then dunk it in liquid plastic .... maybe :)mmmm
 

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Well the weber had a black fine open cell foam inside , (looks just like yours ) that did soak up fuel , coz thats how I twigged . I had carb parts all over the place and was having a wee tidy up and I picked up the float and thought it felt heavier than I expected , and when I squeezed it fuel squirted out the crack that I hadnt yet seen, fmd ! ..............There was a brass float option available from weber so I went that way ( different float height setting for the brass one )
I think the start with a bit of foam the right shape , then attach the tang by stabbing it into the foam and then dunk it in liquid plastic .... maybe :)mmmm
The floats that where in there before they where replaced one was cracks and also they where not set up right they would have to i believe float up more that normal for needle to stop the fuel. Because when i flipped them over and held level the float did not stay level with the rim of bowl like it should of it sank down like maybe 3/16 of a inch. I tried to get the new floats set right. Much better set that what was in there i think. But on top of one them having a crack maybe they the out of adjustment and just maybe that out of adjustment caused a idle problem. Today i going try it. I going find out if i accomplished much.
 

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The floats that where in there before they where replaced one was cracks and also they where not set up right they would have to i believe float up more that normal for needle to stop the fuel. Because when i flipped them over and held level the float did not stay level are running the same way with the rim of bowl like it should be from what i remember it sank down like maybe 3/16 of a inch. I tried to get the new floats set right. Much better set that what was in there i think. But on top of one them having a crack maybe they the out of adjustment and just maybe that out of adjustment caused a idle problem. Today i going try it. I going find out if i accomplished much.
 

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took for a test. Idle much better. But to much play in throttle cable i going try and order one throttle cable on ebay so i can better set the idle.
 

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took for a test. Idle much better. But to much play in throttle cable i going try and order one throttle cable on ebay so i can better set the idle.
As long as your getting full open throttle at the carbs / ignition timing with the throttle / shift lever in the full throttle position Id be inclined to leave it be , I cant see how a new cable will help unless you can see a fault in the old one .
 

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As long as your getting full open throttle at the carbs / ignition timing with the throttle / shift lever in the full throttle position Id be inclined to leave it be , I cant see how a new cable will help unless you can see a fault in the old one .
You been right with all your suggestions. Thank you.
PS I took the throttle cable off to measure and did not notice anything wrong with it.
It getting the speed and i can shift into gear ok will just leave it like it is and will be using some more next month. Thanks for your reply and excellent advice.
 
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