1983 85 rude still in crate

[Trevor]

What do you think of this.....<br />I was at my grandparents cabin in the gulf Islands when a neighbour asked if i was interested in purchasing a motor off him I asked what it was and he told me it was an 83 85hp rude with NO hours on it well how ment times do you here that in one day so I said I look at it expecting to see some worn out piece. No it was deffinitly low hour still in the crate low hour it also has a jet drive for it also still in the box. what should I pay for this treasure??? he is a friend of my Grandparents and would not feel right steeling it from him!! tonight I am heading over there for christmass untill thursday I am going to try and run in while I am there. what is this thing worth and is any body interested???

 

[Solittle]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

You might not like my thoughts but I'm going to offer them anyway. First that is quite a find no matter what happens. Sort of makes my mind dream of a long lost relative calling me and asking if I were interested in a 57 Thunderbird that had been stored out in the barn since the day it was purchased.<br /><br />To reality - If I were looking for such an engine I would have to assume that every rubber hose (fuel, water, air) was dried up and would have to be replaced. I would also be concerned that the internal machined metal surfaces like cylinder walls and bearing surfaces that I can't readily inspect would be rusted due to condensation and lack of lubricant over the years. I would plan on removing the heads and looking at the cyl walls. And on, and on - - In otherwords I would be interested but very cautious.<br /><br />A few words of advice for you - First I would not try to start the motor without doing a couple of things. I would pull the plugs and spray WD-40 or other lub into the cyl. Then rotate the crankshaft by hand turning the flywheel. That may give you a sense of rust in the cyl plus getting some lubricant to the rings. I would suggest strongly that you do not try to start the motor until you have replaced the impeller in the water pump. That impeller has been there almost 20 years and is quite brittle. The last thing you want is to the motor to start, the impeller disintegrate due to age and bits and pieces of it getting lodged (and stuck) in coolant water passages. When you do try to start it use 25:1 premix.<br /><br />As to price - Were I in the market for an engine like that I probably wouldn't offer much more (and maybr less) than a like moter that had been well cared for due to the above. Your motor is an unknown vs. another with an operating history. The price is whatever a willing buyer would pay. <br /><br />P.S. If I get the call on the T-Bird, I can tell you that I would jump on it in a heart beat and wouldn't tell a sole until I had it in my garage with the title in my name.

 

[Trevor]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

I agree that these percautions should be followd and now that I think about it yes there is probubly going to be internal rust it is in a damp part of the province but am still not sure what the motor is worth? I men my bluee book does not go back that far and it says the motor is only worth 250.00 seem avarage for a motor of this era. HELP on a value!!! what would some one pay for it if in top running condition??

 

[alcan]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

Sorry, not to be negitive. But you might want to feel around a bit and make sure this unit was legaly acquired.

 

[ob]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

For $250.00 bucks I would jump on a motor that was crated sight unseen, unless it was at the bottom of the ocean.The power packs and stator are worth more.

 

[RICKRICK1]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

The above posts are right on the mark on this, just a suggestion you might have your grandfather ask the neighbor how much he wants to get for the motor. I would not pay much over $250 as you have atleast $50 for impellar and other things that probably need changed before you can even think about stating it. Do you have to title a motor in canada? does he have the title?

 

[miloman]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

well if you do buy it flip it to me I'll give you 400 site unseen miloman@sympatico.ca

 

[Trevor]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

Hey guys my grandpa says the guy still has the original bill of sale and all the owners manuals he also says the jet pump is about 5 years old he bought it planing to install the motor to run on the Fraser River but fell ill before he could do this. I think it he said he paid around $5500.00 for the motor. boy have things changed !!!!!!

 

[ob]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

Well , it never hurts to dream.Get the seller to establish his asking price for motor and post back.Is the jet drive he has new in crate in addittion to a conventional lower end or is that all it has?Also see if motor is equipped with controls.

 

[Trevor]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

the motor has side mount box,tach,trim guage, convetional lower unit and brand new jet pump in box!!!!!! like I said wow!!!!

 

[RICKRICK1]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

Trevor<br /><br />Sounds like a pretty good deal. Don't know when he (grand fathers neighbor)bought it, but I was at Basspro the other day and they have a 2002 Merc 70 for around $5100. I checked with my buddy who buys and sells boats and motors and he said that a 83 85hp running motor (used) goes for about $350 to $500 with controls, a parts motor goes for under $200. Some he has bought for $100 or less.

 

[Terry H]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

come on boys...just to buy a new jet pump for that motor would cost you around $1500...I guess it's always nice to dream...just a Thought

 

[Trevor]

Re: 1983 85 rude still in crate

hey guys Im back will you keep you posted the gentalman was away for christmass so I am going to have to make a nother trip I think it will be worth it though!!!!!