1984 Chrysler 125 - at what revs is max advance?

steveclv

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Can someone tell me at what RPM the maximum advance occurs?

I want to do a dynamic timing check on my Chrysler 125 and would prefer to do it at as slow a speed as possible - not screaming across the lake at 45mph :)

I know with cars that a lot of engines will have their maximum advance a long time before they are at max rpm so is this true of a 2 stroke outboard too?
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 1984 Chrysler 125 - at what revs is max advance?

Chrysler outboard engines are similar to cars but if you want to dynamic time them, you have no choice but to do it at higher speeds.

The linkage is designed so full timing comes at about 3/4 throttle. This is cruise position and corresponds to about 1/4 opening of the carb butterflies. It varies a bit from engine to engine. RPM will also vary depending upon hull, prop, and load so there is no set RPM. Further advance of the throttle--depending upon whether or not you have older Motorola ignition or Newer Prestolite ignition may retard timing a degree or two. The carbs open wide, the engine makes a lot more noise and uses a lot more fuel, and top speed is only 2-5 MPH more.

However, no matter which ignition system you have, it is not necessary to time with the engine running. Either can be time in the driveway, although I always check my results on the water.

Timing for Chrysler can be as far advanced as 32 deg. BTDC if you use land based pump gas. However, late Chryslers were recommended to be timed at 30 BTDC as were Force engines.

If you have distributor Motorola ignition. all you need to do to time it is remove the top plug. turn on the key, put the control handle in full forward, and slowly turn over the flywheel by hand. Watch where the plug sparks in relation to the flywheel marks. Just be certain there is no gas in the engine or remove and ground the other plugs. Some of these engines when in good condition WILL kick, even when turned slowly by hand.

If you have Prestolite distributor ignition, remove all the plugs put the control in full forward, and with the key on, jump the solenoid to crank it. Use a timing light to see the flywheel marks. I forget, but I think static timing is 28 deg BTDC at cranking which will automatically advance to 30 BTDC while running. (has to do with slop in the linkage and the flywheel magnets)

In either case, the prop will be engaged so don't get your legs near it.
 

steveclv

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Re: 1984 Chrysler 125 - at what revs is max advance?

OK, I have CDI boxes and no distributor it's an 'A' model so is the process the same?

I'll go for the safer timing rather than trying to peak it for that extra 0.5mph which I think on this motor is 30 BTDC rather than 32 BTDC but I will double check in the PDF manual that I have just found.

I might also just pull the prop just to be safe :)

Thanks so much

Steve
 

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Re: 1984 Chrysler 125 - at what revs is max advance?

I refer to CDI box ignition generically as Prestolite. The only difference between prestolite and later CD ignitions is that prestolite has quick-connects while later ignition systems use a terminal board on the coil mounting plate. Timing procedure is the same.
 
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