1984 gt150 trim/tilt problem

dylandawg

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The tilt goes up all the way, it will not go down. When I bleed it to lower the motor, the tilt will but the two trim pistons will not receid. Both the upward and lower soloniods are working and clicking I even tried jumping the lowering solonoid and it didn't work, Hydraulic motor is running when trying to go up or down, the tilt piston just moves maybe less than a 1/16" down when trying to lower the unit and stops.

Any ideas? Thanks.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1984 gt150 trim/tilt problem

You say that the electric PTT motor is running in both the up mode and also the down mode... this proves that the solenoids are working okay.

It's possible that the unit has a hydraulic lockup which would trap it in the up mode... check it as follows.


(PTT Hydraulic Lockup)
(J. Reeves)

If the engine has been trailered without having both of the trim rams pulled in, or trailered without even having the engine being supported by the trailering support, it is possible for the PTT to encounter a hydraulic lock up. The slight up and down motion, when trailering allows over 1700 psi of oil pressure to build up on the wrong side of the oil pump. Since the oil pump cannot exceed that 1700 psi, the unit is effectively hydraulically locked into position (the elec motor runs and does nothing).

The proper method for trailering is to have the engine in a full tilt position and resting on the trailering support bracket, then have both trim rams pulled in to a point where the engine makes a jerking motion. At this point, immediately take your finger off of the PTT trim switch. Now, quickly and sharply, tap the PTT up button. This removes the vast majority of down hydraulic pressure but at the same time, the engine is solidly locked into position and cannot rock up and down.

(The Cure)
Have the engine in the up position and supported so that it cannot fall. Look straight at the PTT assy.... you will see what looks like a large slotted screw on the port (left) side of the PTT assy, but which is in fact a check valve. Remove that valve and what you find inside which is a shuttle valve, and a spring on each end of that shuttle valve.

After you've removed those items, look straight inside of that chamber. You'll be looking at the reverse side of another check valve. Look at the hole in the backside of the valve you removed. You will need a punch that will fit inside of that hole.

Now, place the punch inside of the hole in that check valve that is still in the unit, and tap it rather sharply with a hammer. It will take quite a rap but the idea is to unseat the valve to release the hydraulic pressure. Watch your eyes as when you do release the pressure, it will have a tendency to spray out somewhat.

After releasing the pressure, reassemble the shuttle valve, springs, and outer check valve. Fill the oil reservoir with PTT fluid, having the engine in the extreme full tilt position. That's it.
 

boobie

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Re: 1984 gt150 trim/tilt problem

Sorry Joe but that problem was before 1978. After that they put an expansion relief valve in the unit to cure the problem. But he can still try it and see what happens.
 
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