1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

shuck

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I have a 1986 Starcraft Supersport 210 (aluminum, 21' open bow) with an OMC Cobra 4.3L 205HP engine. About two years ago, I forgot to drain the block before I deployed for the winter and it froze hard while I was gone. The block cracked. Bad. Everywhere. One of the heads cracked. One of the exhaust manifolds cracked. The power steering pump split wide open. It was a total mess. I was sick. This had been my grandpa's boat since the 80's and it had been babied its entire life. The engine couldn't have had more than 300 easy hours on Minnesota lakes on it.

I was about to buy a Rapido long block when a last minute search on craigslist yielded a 1987 (I think) 4.3 OMC Cobra engine with exhaust manifolds for $500 complete with everything to the transom coupler. It was in a boat that was falling apart, but it ran (poorly on 5 year old gas). The guy who was selling it had bought the boat for the outdrive and wasn't interested in the engine. The accessories on it weren't in as good of shape as mine were. The other big negative - it was the 175HP version with the 2 barrel carb.

My big question is, can I swap the 4bbl carb and intake on to this motor without changing the cam and still get _almost_ 205HP? Will it run right? I feel like the boat is big and heavy enough that it needs all the power it can get.

I pretty much have to swap the intake and carb to properly interface with the controls on my boat, I'm just hoping to avoid the work (cost) of swapping the cam. My experience with work inside engines is pretty slim. I can attempt most anything on a car until I get to engine insides. When people start talking about roller cams vs tappets etc I get lost. I know the basics of what makes an engine operate, I just don't know all the nuances that can be different on each specific part.

I have swayed back and forth between spending $1500 to get this engine re-manufactured before I put it back in the boat, but it would sure be nice if I could avoid spending that money and still have a decently operating engine for a few years. So my biggest question is can I swap the carb/intake without swapping the cam and will it have similar results?

Thanks in advance!
Ryan
 

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Re: 1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

I have a 1986 Starcraft Supersport 210 (aluminum, 21' open bow) with an OMC Cobra 4.3L 205HP engine. About two years ago, I forgot to drain the block before I deployed for the winter and it froze hard while I was gone. The block cracked. Bad. Everywhere. One of the heads cracked. One of the exhaust manifolds cracked. The power steering pump split wide open. It was a total mess. I was sick. This had been my grandpa's boat since the 80's and it had been babied its entire life. The engine couldn't have had more than 300 easy hours on Minnesota lakes on it.

I was about to buy a Rapido long block when a last minute search on craigslist yielded a 1987 (I think) 4.3 OMC Cobra engine with exhaust manifolds for $500 complete with everything to the transom coupler. It was in a boat that was falling apart, but it ran (poorly on 5 year old gas). The guy who was selling it had bought the boat for the outdrive and wasn't interested in the engine. The accessories on it weren't in as good of shape as mine were. The other big negative - it was the 175HP version with the 2 barrel carb.

My big question is, can I swap the 4bbl carb and intake on to this motor without changing the cam and still get _almost_ 205HP? Will it run right? I feel like the boat is big and heavy enough that it needs all the power it can get.

I pretty much have to swap the intake and carb to properly interface with the controls on my boat, I'm just hoping to avoid the work (cost) of swapping the cam. My experience with work inside engines is pretty slim. I can attempt most anything on a car until I get to engine insides. When people start talking about roller cams vs tappets etc I get lost. I know the basics of what makes an engine operate, I just don't know all the nuances that can be different on each specific part.

I have swayed back and forth between spending $1500 to get this engine re-manufactured before I put it back in the boat, but it would sure be nice if I could avoid spending that money and still have a decently operating engine for a few years. So my biggest question is can I swap the carb/intake without swapping the cam and will it have similar results?

Thanks in advance!
Ryan

Ayuh,.... Welcome Aboard,.... 1st off, Thank you for yer service to Our Great country,....

The cam don't need changin', as the only difference 'tween the horsepower, is the Carb/ intake,...

But,... You may run into a Problem, as the new motor should be a 1 piece rear main seal block, 'n yer old 1 oughta be a 2 piece rear main seal,...
The crank shaft bolt pattern changed, so fitment of the flywheel, 'n coupler might be an Issue,..

The New long block would be Nice, but dressin' it up will be expensive, replacin' yer busted parts,...
 

shuck

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Re: 1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

Thanks for the quick response!

Both motors appear to have the same metal seal housing around the crankshaft. I have the flywheels and couplers from both engines, between them I should be able to make the engine mate up with the outdrive, right?

Any idea why the OMC service manual lists different cam part numbers for the 2/4bbl engines?

Is there anything else I should do to this engine (that is relatively cheap and simple) while I've got it out of the boat?
 

shuck

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Re: 1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

Some additional information:

The block casting number for my cracked engine is 14088553, the replacement is 105867. It looks like the cracked engine was a tappet cam and the replacement is a roller cam, both are 1 piece main seals. Will that be a problem?

Thanks!
Ryan
 

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Re: 1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

There's not much noticeable difference between 175 & 205 hp except for hole shot. For cost reasons the Craigs List motor you found would be a good deal (if it's in good shape). However, as Bondo stated, bolting up to the coupler is a big issue.
 

shuck

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Re: 1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

I have the couplers from both engines. At first glance they appear to be the same, but I haven't looked at them with great detail.
 

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Re: 1986 OMC Cobra 4.3 Cracked Block - 2/4bbl conundrum

Hi Shuck, both engines have the same bolt pattern on the crank.
The 10105867 seems to be from a 1989 90 vehicle.Go to
GM engine 14088553 in google, then go to engineparts warehouse to see both engines
listed. Hope this helps. Good luck, John
 
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