1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

bigboat606

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A week ago I ran my 1987 200 HP Evinrude motor on the flusher. It ran fine for a while then it started running rough and the idle began slowing. I pumped the fuel line primer 'bulb' and the idle picked up SOME but I could not pump it enough to keep the engine going. By-the-way the fuel pump was replaced about a year ago and has about 15-20 hours run time on it. Today I finally got around to looking at the engine. First I started hand pumping the primer bulb with the engine off. It would not get 'hard' no matter how much I pumped. It did get harder but not like a rock because it was moving fuel. I could hear fuel hissing or moving in the area of the carbs with each pump of the primer bulb. I took off the cover to the carburetors so I could view them as I pumped the primer bulb. I saw no fuel coming out of any of the carburetors. I next removed the vacuum hose from the fuel pump and checked for leaking fuel as I pumped the primer bulb. No fuel at the vacuum of the fuel pump. Finally I tried to start the engine. It ran smooth except it idled much too fast. (Usually when I first start the engine it runs too fast and I just choke it until the engine speed slows down, then I stop choking and I'm good for the duration. I only do this when I run on the flusher.) When I tried to choke the engine this time it had no effect. The engine kept a high idle no matter how long I keep the choke engaged. Finally the engine speed increased to around 1500 rpm (after 3 or 4 minutes) and I shut it down. After all this background my question is: where is my fuel going when I pump the primer bulb? I don't smell an unusual amount of fuel and I don't see it leaking anywhere, but do hear fuel moving in the area of the carbs. And I pumped the primer bulb A LOT. Also what is making the engine race at idle?
 

Solittle

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Re: 1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

I would start by replaceing the primer bulb.
 

Faztbullet

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Re: 1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

Is the VRO clicking really fast? If so you have a air leak on fuel inlet side or diaphragm has a problem.Brp has had a lot of problems from the vender that supply's the VROs the last 2 years..
 

bigboat606

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Re: 1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

The VRO is disconnected. When I replaced the fuel pump I installed a pump that did not have an oil pump attached. I now run pre-mix. I thought I might try installing a clear section of hose in line with the fuel line to see if the fuel is truely moving or something else is going on.
 

j_k_bisson

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Re: 1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

Might want to check that little red flip lever primer valve. Probably open. It will give you a lean/rich condition depending on where in the rpm cycle you are at. Either way you just turn the red lever and make sure it is shut off. This system bypasses the carbs and dumps fuel right into the cylinders thru the intake. Either it's open or the line has a leak.....
 

bigboat606

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Re: 1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

I've narrowed down things a bit. It looks to be fuel pump related. I put a clear section of hose on the fuel pump output. No fuel is being pumped. I can hand pump the primer bulb and pump fuel that way. Also the high idle mentioned earlier I believe is from the low fuel level in the carbs altering the fuel/air ratio (I think). I say this because when I run fuel out of my 15 HP the idle begins to race as the carb bowl fuel level becomes low. Now I'm trying to decide if the the fuel pump is truly bad or is it a vacuum related problem (or some other). I measured the vacuum line driving the fuel pump with an analog vacuum gage. It was swinging RAPIDLY between 0 and about 5 inches of Hg at idle on the flusher. Does anyone know if that is close to normal? Also any ideas how I can fully check the pump out before I replace it? It would disappointing (expensive) to replace the pump only yo find out it was another issue.
 

bigboat606

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Re: 1987 200 HP Evinrude - Disapperaing Fuel

I looks like I've veered from the original question so I'm going to start a new thread this morning. Look for a VRO fuel pump title.
 
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