1987 Bayliner Rebuild!! Will it ever end?

[Mr.Swee]

After nagging my neighbor for years about buying his boat, he was nice enough and just gave it to me. Was he nice or did he just give me his problems? LOL

The boat is a 1987 Bayliner Capri with a 3.0 inboard motor. The motor was a new rebuild just three years ago. He used it for one year then winterized it and let the boat sit for three years with no cover and totally exposed to all weather.

The first thing I did was buy a new battery, check the oil and spark plugs and add the earmuffs to the inlet side of the prop and turned on the water. The motor fired right up. I then check the trim and the bilge pump and they both seem to work with no problems.

The vinyl seats look good but the wood under them was totally rotted and so was the floor. I then began the task of tearing the floor apart and I?m now at the stage of rebuilding.

My questions:

1. How many layers of fiber glass?
2. Where can I find the foam? The old foam was soaked.
3. Any ideas to make this project go smoother?

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Some more photos.

 

[57chris]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

If you search you may find similar re-fits or re-flooring to a boat like yours. It looks like your hull is in good shape, just need new wood. Check those stringers...the pieces that run from front to back, looks like there's some notches in them up front from the pics. Lots of good reads on here...good luck!

 

[jkust]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Looks like the vinyl has been replaced at one point. Thats is not the OEM look. Lots of almost identical rebuilds on here. I always admire the guys doing the rebuilds since it is so much work.

 

[F14CRAZY]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

This may help

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=272749&page=9

My encapsulation on my stringers was 3/16'' or so so I used three layers of 18 oz

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

If you search you may find similar re-fits or re-flooring to a boat like yours. It looks like your hull is in good shape, just need new wood. Check those stringers...the pieces that run from front to back, looks like there's some notches in them up front from the pics. Lots of good reads on here...good luck!

Yes, on the stringers, I cut the support braces for the floor. They were all rotted out. I was going to remake the support braces and fiber glass the heck out of it and lay a layer of fiber glass down on top of the stringers already there. They seem to be ok with the exception of the cut out areas.

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

This may help

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=272749&page=9

My encapsulation on my stringers was 3/16'' or so so I used three layers of 18 oz

Thank You!! I will check this out after work.

 

[ezmobee]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Free nice looking boat with running motor and galvanized trailer? Yeah you did real well. Add to that most of your interior vinyl looks to be able to cleaned up and reused? You're way ahead of a lot of other when they started. Good work on stripping it out. Now the fun begins on rebuilding her. Good luck with your project.

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Free nice looking boat with running motor and galvanized trailer? Yeah you did real well. Add to that most of your interior vinyl looks to be able to cleaned up and reused? You're way ahead of a lot of other when they started. Good work on stripping it out. Now the fun begins on rebuilding her. Good luck with your project.

Thank you!! Yes, what you see was what I got. I take it a galvanized trailer is a good thing?

Thanks again.

 

[109jb]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Thank you!! Yes, what you see was what I got. I take it a galvanized trailer is a good thing?

Thanks again.

Galvanized trailers are great because they don't rust out. Aluminum too. Still OK, but not as desirable are the painted steel trailers, but eventually they will need fixing or replacement because of rust.

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Galvanized trailers are great because they don't rust out. Aluminum too. Still OK, but not as desirable are the painted steel trailers, but eventually they will need fixing or replacement because of rust.

Can I paint the galvanized trailer?

 

[ezmobee]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

I have heard that you can't. Something about the galvanized metal outgassing or something like that causing the paint to bubble.

 

[Mr.Swee]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Ok....

After replacing the front halve of the floor. When tearing into the second halve, I noticed that all the wood going back to the rear of the boat needs to be replaced. The wood divides into two parts with the motor in the middle sitting a lot lower.

I have an inboard/outboard motor. Does the motor sit on wood also? Can I replace just the top left and right side? Will tearing into the left and right side cause the weight of the motor to shift? Should I replace one side at a time and not both at once?

The trailer is in my garage and is supported with jack stands. I was told to take the tires off and sit the trailer on wood to help secure the trailer. I have no way to remove the motor. Is there a way to support the motor? HELP!!

 

[ezmobee]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Bump for some help. Surely some of you Bayliner guys have some answers?

 

[lowkee]

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Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Man, you are really cruising on this teardown! The motor needs to come out (for a chuckle [maybe a cry..], click on the 10 steps link in my sig). Put the tires back on the trailer, make a method of lifting the engine out (via a tree limb or engine hoist, etc) and pull the boat out from under it. I'm not sure why the removal of the wheels from the trailer. I left mine on and all seems well.

Working around the engine just isn't possible. The engine mount is glassed to the stringers, which will need replacing, and the stringer are glassed to the transom, which will likely also need replacing (since there is wood-wood contact, the moisture spreads to both). When you remove the outdrive, you will know pretty quickly if the transom is bad, as the transom hole will be two layers of glass filled with mush (or dry, solid wood).

If you don't have them already, grab the manuals for the engine and outdrive, as you will need them. There is a specific order things need to come apart and back together, skipping a step can cost you.

If you keep at the pace you are going now, you will be on the water before season end!

 

[robbankston]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Man, you are really cruising on this teardown! The motor needs to come out (for a chuckle [maybe a cry..], click on the 10 steps link in my sig). Put the tires back on the trailer, make a method of lifting the engine out (via a tree limb or engine hoist, etc) and pull the boat out from under it. I'm not sure why the removal of the wheels from the trailer. I left mine on and all seems well.

Working around the engine just isn't possible. The engine mount is glassed to the stringers, which will need replacing, and the stringer are glassed to the transom, which will likely also need replacing (since there is wood-wood contact, the moisture spreads to both). When you remove the outdrive, you will know pretty quickly if the transom is bad, as the transom hole will be two layers of glass filled with mush (or dry, solid wood).

If you don't have them already, grab the manuals for the engine and outdrive, as you will need them. There is a specific order things need to come apart and back together, skipping a step can cost you.

If you keep at the pace you are going now, you will be on the water before season end!

The "10 Steps" should be made into a sticky!!

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild....HELP!!

Man, you are really cruising on this teardown! The motor needs to come out (for a chuckle [maybe a cry..], click on the 10 steps link in my sig). Put the tires back on the trailer, make a method of lifting the engine out (via a tree limb or engine hoist, etc) and pull the boat out from under it. I'm not sure why the removal of the wheels from the trailer. I left mine on and all seems well.

Working around the engine just isn't possible. The engine mount is glassed to the stringers, which will need replacing, and the stringer are glassed to the transom, which will likely also need replacing (since there is wood-wood contact, the moisture spreads to both). When you remove the outdrive, you will know pretty quickly if the transom is bad, as the transom hole will be two layers of glass filled with mush (or dry, solid wood).

If you don't have them already, grab the manuals for the engine and outdrive, as you will need them. There is a specific order things need to come apart and back together, skipping a step can cost you.

If you keep at the pace you are going now, you will be on the water before season end!

No I did not have any manuals. Whats the best way to check the stringers. Besides the four supoort pieces for the floor, they were rotted out, the stringers seem ok. It's covered in fiberglass so when I take my hammer and bound on it they seem ok. Where can I get manuals for a 1987?

 

[Mr.Swee]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild!! Will it ever end?

Why would I seperate the two halves of the boat? Can I continue to replace the transom and remove the engine without seperating the halves?

 

[jonesg]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild!! Will it ever end?

Why would I seperate the two halves of the boat? Can I continue to replace the transom and remove the engine without seperating the halves?

from the 10 steps of denial.

3. It's just the deck, the stringers are fine
4. i don't have to pull the engine; I can work around it
5. The transom feels solid
6. I won't have to remove the cap, plenty of room

Get a used cherry picker off craigslist, usually around $125, lift it up and wheel it back, plonk it on a pallete.

 

[NoKlu]

Re: 1987 Bayliner Rebuild!! Will it ever end?

You can rent a portable engine hoist from almost any rental shop for 20-$30 for the day. Check the heights to make sure it will reach high enough. If you have a backhoe thats even better. There's lots of ways to lift them. If it takes you half a day its really going slow. I just watched a marine mechanic remove an engine in 30 minutes yesterday so once you get the lifting solution a couple of hours and it's on the floor. A few friends is all thats needed to lift the cap off most boats.