1987 Johnson 15 HP Hard Re-Start

111torrance111

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Just recently purchased 1987 Johnson 15 HP outboard which starts easy and runs great, the problem is after running at about 3/4 throttle for 10 minutes or more it's hard to restart.<br /><br />The first couple of times out the restart would take 4 or 5 pulls to get going, now that I'm going futher out "mayby 20 minutes" the re-start has gotten worse.<br /><br />Things I've checked:<br /><br />1. Plus look good per the manual.<br />2. Spark seems good during the pull starting process<br /><br />Once the engine is started, it runs great all the the way in, including the idle.
 

OBJ

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Re: 1987 Johnson 15 HP Hard Re-Start

Since the engine is just recently purchased, we will have to assume you have no maint history on the engine....if you do, please share.<br /><br />There was two different carbs with this engine, an early model with a rounded top carb and a late model carb with a flat top covered by a black "plastic" cover. Both had the same cam follower roller.<br /><br />Usually, with this type of problem on these particular engines, it's carb related. If you have no idea when the carb was overhauled last, this would be a good time to do it. Also, look at the cam follower roller. The rollers from that time had a plastic insert that would eventually crack and fall off. If the insert is is missing or there is a deep groove in it, replace it. The PN is 323328.<br /><br />If all the above is OK, try this....if you have the early production carb, run the low speed needle in till it's GENTLY seated and then back out 1 1/2 turns. Run the engine till it's up to temp and then adjust the needle for best idle IN GEAR UNDER WAY on the boat.<br /><br />If you have the late production model carb, again run the low speed needle in till it's GENTLY SEATED and then back out 2 1/2 turns. Then adjust for best idle as stated above.<br /><br />But before you do any adjustment, rebuild the carb....stripping it down and soaking it out good and then follow up with compressed air to blow out all the passages. Carb kits are availabe through your local John/Rude dealer.<br /><br />Some other questions.....is the engine running at a normal temp? After idleing for a while, can you touch the flat place on top of the block just forward of the head? If you can lay your fingers there for several seconds, the engine should be running at a good temp. If it's cold and does not warm up, either the t-stat is stuck open or not there. The engine needs to run at the correct temp for good service.<br /><br />The spark on each cylinder should jump a 1/2" gap with a strong lighting like spark. This would ask the question....how did you check the spark?<br /><br />If you can add any thing to your previous post, please do. We can help....just need info.... :) <br /><br />Edit: Compression readings on each cylinder would be a good idea also. In the 90's on each cylinder is great....more important is that each cylinder is within 10 to 15% of each other on compression readings.
 

mikeyzx2

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Re: 1987 Johnson 15 HP Hard Re-Start

You need good compression, good hot spark that jumps 7/16" gap, and fuel. <br /><br />Start with carburetor kit, easy to do, just make sure you do it right. No shortcuts, tear it down and soak the body in carb cleaner then blow out ALL passages with compressed air. <br /><br />Do a compression check on it, testers are inexpensive. Readings should be around 100 or higher and need to be close together. <br /><br />You can make a spark tester from scratch, someone on here has directions on that. The spark needs to be bright and snappy and jump at least 7/16" gap. <br /><br />One thing also, you may want to check into the waterpump impeller and thermostat. Since you just got it. <br /><br />Go from there and let us know what ya got.<br /><br />EDIT: I'm too slow I'm gonna sit back and watch from now on... :p
 

R.Johnson

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Re: 1987 Johnson 15 HP Hard Re-Start

Check the fuel, spark sync & link. If the throttle butterfly is part way open on start-up, that engine will be hard to start. You will need a manual to adjust this properly.
 
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