1987 Johnston 120 WOT problem

1Chief101

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Had a brain F--- and went from reverse to forward before the motor idled down completely. Thought that I broke a gear pin or something. Had a machanic over and he discovered that the gear shifting cable was misadjusted. he readjusted that and I had him change out the water pump at the same time. Went out with him to test it. Everything running fine.. RPM up to 5000+. then it suddenly seemed like it lost a cilinder. RPM dropped down to about 4000. Checked plugs, compression, reed valves and all checked out fine. So he decided that the carborators needed to be rebuilt. He did that...no difference. Changed out the power pack...the epoxy on mine had rubberized and seemed bad. No change. Then he felt that the fuel pump was bad, so he temporarily changed that out with an old one that he had. Not one bit of change, so we put the old one back. In the last test run, he discovered that if he held the choke button in, the motor would jump up to full throttle and stay there as long as he held in the button. As soon as he released the choke button, it would fall back to about 4000 RPM. He still thought that it was the fuel pump. I then had an family emergency and had to leave the state for a couple of months. I called him, but he hasn't shown for about 6 weeks.
Am I over looking something simpler, like a bad fuel return valve, bad bulb or something like that? I am not totally imept around moters and would welcome any suggestions. I sure would appreciate any help.
 

Brew2

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Re: 1987 Johnston 120 WOT problem

The fact that pushing in the primer helps the problem sure points towards fuel delivery....but I find it odd that this would happen at WOT and not during acceleration from idle. Typically with fuel delivery issues, the motor will bog down and/or stall when accelerating.

The fuel pump still sounds like a likely candidate to me, but if a second pump didn't resolve the problem, then I guess you can rule that out.

I'd start by double checking all the fuel lines for air leaks at connection points. If any of the fuel hose is old and brittle, I'd just replace it. Also, check all the smaller fuel lines that run to each carb.....sometimes they can have a small kink in them that restricts fuel flow.

The only other thing that comes to mind is a faulty anti-syphon valve on the gas tank.....but since you are obviously getting some fuel, I doubt that is the issue.

Good luck and post back....I'm sure someone more knowledgable than I will be along to help.
 

1Chief101

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Re: 1987 Johnston 120 WOT problem

Thanks for the quick response Petty officer. I'm in the middle of a project right now, but as soon as I get a chance to stop and do some "fun" stuff, I will check all of those things out. Will repost when I get it done. Thanks again....One other note: After pumping up the fuel bulb and running the bost, should the fuel bulb stay firm? Does it softening up imdicate an air leak?
 

Brew2

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Re: 1987 Johnston 120 WOT problem

The fuel bulb doesn't stay hard.... softening up a bit after running the boat is normal.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 1987 Johnston 120 WOT problem

99% bet this is your problem. messing with the fuel line enhanced it.

Ethanol and fuel lines
replace all fuel line with Alcohol resistant lines. Ethanol deteriorates, the rubber lines, then they start to sluff off on the inside, going directly to the carbs. Settling to the bottom of the bowl. Contaminating the carbs high speed jets. clean a rebuild carbs, flushing fuel line before connecting to carbs.
 
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