1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

troyschwab

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my father gave me the old family boat that sat for too long. I can not turn the crank by hand with the plugs pulled which makes me think the piston rings are stuck. what should i use or do to free them. any ideas?

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Gary H NC

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

Could try to spray some PB Blaster down the spark plug holes and let it set a couple days.
Its a crap shoot but worth a try.
 

stylesabu

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

get a bigger breaker bar, rock it back and forth. most likely rings rusted to cylinder wall. even if you do get it loose you be burning oil in no time. that rust is going to eat your piston rings, if that is what is causeing engine not to turn.but what do you have to loose, your looking at a overhaul at this point. maybe it breaks loose and you can use it for the summer. then determine how much you like the boat. good luck
 

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

Try a product called Seafoam. Let it sit in the bores a couple days then start rocking it till it comes loose. It will break up the rust and loosen the rings. There will be some bore pitting, but you'll never know how bad without pulling the heads. Once you've changed all the fluids and gotten the gunk out of the carb, run it for a couple of hours and then do a compression check. If it's got even compression (plus or minus 5%) run it even if the compression comes in a little low. I revived a siezed 64 Chev pu with a 283 that had sat 7 years this way and it didn't seem to use an unusual amount of oil after. Ran it as a work truck for several years and sold it to a local golf course. It's still running tho now it's covered with golf ball dents. Anyway try soaking it thoroughly and give it a try, nothing to lose at this point.
 

recce43

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

transmission fluid down each spark plug hole let it sit for a couple days then use a breaker bar on it back and forth this works on car enginges if tha
 

rbh

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

Are you sure its the engine and not the drive seized????
 

Gary H NC

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

The PB Blaster or trans fluid will work better than Seafoam as a penetrating oil.I have used them all many times.Either way work it back and forth a little at a time.
The drive being locked up is a good point too...
 

Friscoboater

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

I have used transmission fluid before. You have to let it sit for a while. You also need to make sure it is not the drive also.

Jay
 

havasuboatman

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

And if that don't work...Get a bigger hammer. And if the hammer don't work, hell it must be electrical.
 

jtybt

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

Please don't use a bigger breaker bar on the the crank bolt. If you strip it, you're really screwed. After soaking the pistons on penetrating oil a few days, use the starter. At least it or the flywheel gear can be easily replaced.

You can use a breaker bar on the crank bolt to gently rock the engine back and forth to help loosen.
 

betayv

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

marvel mistery oil...
 

Silvertip

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

For gosh sakes don't use the starter or bigger breaker bar. Loosening an engine requires patience and a delicate touch -- unless of course you want to breake the starter houseing, the mounting surface on the engine block and/or the ring lands on the pistons. Forcing the engine loose can cause more damage than you already have. As was mentioned, pull the plugs, dump in any rust breaker like PB Blaster, Tri-Flo tec., and definitely not SeaFoam. Let it sit for several days. Using a standard breaker bar, gently try moving the bar in both directions. GENTLY. If no movement is detected. Walk away for a few more day adding more PB Blaster if needed. Try again. At some point you will be able to get a very slight amount of movement. DO NOT force the engine past the limits. Just keep inserting PB Blaster and gently rocking the crank back and forth. When it is fully free, add regular engine oil and spin the engine a few times with the bar. THEN switch to the starter. At this point a compression check can be done but because of all the oil in the cylinders the resulting readings may be artificially high but it will at least indicate presence or absence of a catostrophic problem. Insert the plugs, fuel it up and see if it runs. Yes -- it will smoke until the oil is burned off. And be sure to have water to the engine while you do this test run. Some engines can seize to the point where they cannot be loosened so keep that in mind. Those have typically injested water and have not been turned since.
 

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

Is there any possibility that in the moment of excitement you misunderstood that it might have been

"sitting because it had frozen up"

rather than

"frozen up from sitting"

in which case engine removal may be required?
 

stylesabu

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Re: 1989 5.7L w/69 hours siezed from sitting

good point,Yepblaze.by bigger breaker bar, i meant 12" OR LONGER.But silvertip is right, don"t force it.and you will break starter, mounting boss or flywheel if it siezed.
 
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