1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Cannondale

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OK...bought a 1990 Quantum 1600 X/B (Bayliner brand) bass-type boat with a '90 Force 50hp motor.

Started it up during sale while on muffs, started right up, shifted well, etc.

At home, on muffs, starts right up almost as quick as you turn the key.

Take it out to the lake this weekend. Get it launched, motor dies...rough idle initially, something not exhibited during starts/idles while on trailer.

Then it dies and almost refuses to restart. After many, many attempts to restart, it slowly begins to catch then starts, but idle is rough.

But it motivates well with throttle so we go out. After a half hour of running at various throttle positions, turn it off to have a bite to eat.

Ten minutes later, try to restart and it won't. Again, after multiple(!) tries, it slowly begins to catch and finally starts well enough to advance the throttle into forward and get underway without it dying.

Head back and trailer it.

On a lark, a couple of minutes later while tying it down, I try to restart it....fires right up and idles smoothly.

Today, a couple of days later, put the muffs back on and start it....and it fires right up and idles well.


Aberration? It had been sitting for a couple of months, but had been on the water this summer a few times before we purchased it.

Just found it odd that the motor starts easily, idles well, no problems at all while it's on the trailer, but once it's in the water, it has extremely hard starts and rough idles.

Thoughts? Suggestions?
 

hoofbite

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Re: 1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Is the motor in the same position tilt/trim wise I. Your driveway as it is on the water?
 

Cannondale

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Re: 1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Yes, motor in same position as when in the water and the trailer is level as in not parked on slope.
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: 1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Do a compression/spark test.Then go through the fuel system.Ethanol is messing up motors.Reset the air screw. Screw in and turn out 1 and 1/8th turn.Then start and warm it up.Then in gear turn the screw in till it bucks/coughs.Then out 1/2 turn.J
 

emoney

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Re: 1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Are you pumping the fuel bulb up when you're at the lake?
 

Cannondale

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Re: 1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Well, going out this morning to get all new gas line. Weird thing, another one that is, is that the primer bulb never gets that "firm" feel when you pump it up. Using the primer bulb or not doesn't seem to make a difference in the motor's starting, either.

As for the adjustment on the carb, that'll have to wait until I get a manual for the motor. While I'm fairly sure of the screw you mentioned, jerry, just want to make sure I'm adjusting the proper thing and I've never had a Force motor before. Mostly Mercurys prior to this Force.
 

emoney

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Re: 1990 Force 50 hp and odd starting issues.....

Sometimes the bulb doesn't feel 'firm'. I've got a 50hp and the bulb on it is
always 'spongy' whereas the bulb on my sailboat's 9.9 'Rude is tight after
being pumped up??
 
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