1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

Shoebox

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Hi all,

I recently purchased a 1993 Seaswirl Spyder 208 with OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI. Yep, shoulda done more research and gotten something with a Mercruiser (dumb mistake #1). Oh well, it's what I've got, so I want to make sure it's as reliable as I can make it.

Currently, it idles great, about 800 rpms. When increasing throttle, there is a hesitation as it goes through about 3000 rpm. If I set the rpm at 2800-3000, it seems to hunt between those 2. That is, it will rev to 3000 for a bit (maybe 5-15 seconds), then drop to 2800 for a bit, etc. Below or above that range, it hums right along wherever I set it.

Any ideas what causes this?

Some background:

Before purchasing I insisted on a pre-purchase inspection and test-ride. The inspection revealed it needed a new impeller and housing (dumb mistake #2). The seller paid to fix those, and the inspection continued, to include compression testing. The shop said it was good to go, so I took it for a quick test ride. It started, idled, and drove nice for the 5-10 minutes we had it out so we completed the deal (dumbest mistake!).

The first time I took it out, it ran great for 15-20 minutes while we were cruising at 2600 rpm/25 mph. Slowed in a no-wake zone for 5-10 minutes, then when accelerating out, the boat started a rapid stutter at about 2800 rpm. If I pulled back to 2200 or so, it would get on plane and I could then increase rpms to whatever I wanted and it would run well. Every time we'd idle for any length of time, the same thing would happen. Started watching the temps, thinking maybe the shop screwed up the impeller replacement. At speed, temp would be 140-160*. At idle, it would creep up to 200*. Finished the day with no other issues.

Took it out again a couple of days later, and it was doing the same thing. Then at the far end of the lake (of course!) and accelerating out of a no-wake zone, it wouldn't go above 2000 rpms. Shut it down and inspected the prop, no issues. Tried re-starting, and it was hard starting and would die almost immediately. Finally got it started and moving, and once moving it ran normally. Stopped at a marina for lunch, hoping it would cool off and "reset." Got back out, and - nothing! Hydro-locked. Called the shop, told them the story, they told me to bring it in.

They inspected it (apparently more closely) and found evidence of it having overheated in the past. Said I would probably need a new head gasket. Started tearing it down, found missing exhaust flappers, were going to just replace those and see if that fixed it. I told them to also check the riser gaskets and replace them (thanks to reading here!!). They replaced the gaskets and flappers, took it for a much longer and more thorough test-ride, and the problem seemed to be solved. Temps are rock-solid at 140*, no matter if I'm idling or WOT.

Of course now I've got this other issue - related? Thanks for any help and input!
 

bruceb58

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

I think the main reason you are having few people help is that you have a fuel injection system and ignition sytem that wasn't used very long.

I can't really help you other than the basics of change your fuel filter and make sure the fuel isn't old. If its old, you may need to drain the tank and flush/clean your injection system. Change your spark plugs and possibly your cap, rotor and wires.
 

Shoebox

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

Thanks it figures I managed to buy the boat with the least parts and help availability...

The fuel isn't old, the previous owner had used/filled it pretty extensively prior to my purchase, and was nearly empty when I got it. I've filled it twice since then. I plan on changing the fuel filter, plugs, cap, and rotor. I've got the factory parts manual and waiting on the shop manual I ordered. My cap is screw-down, but all the images I've seen of replacements appear to be clamp-down. Any help with the right cap would be appreciated.
 

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

You sure you don't have a clamp with a screw on it? What is your full model number? These go by model number, not by year.
 

Shoebox

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

Which model number? Where would I find the one you're asking for? I'm new to marine/OMC engines, so bear with me. I'm in the process of rebuilding a 1990 5.0L HO motor, so I thought I'd have a better handle on this - I thought wrong!
 

Shoebox

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

You sure you don't have a clamp with a screw on it? What is your full model number? These go by model number, not by year.
You're right, on closer inspection it is a clamp with a screw. Taking the boat out tomorrow, we'll see if anything's changed. Not likely, since I haven't gotten any parts yet.
 

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

You're right, on closer inspection it is a clamp with a screw. Taking the boat out tomorrow, we'll see if anything's changed. Not likely, since I haven't gotten any parts yet.

I have a 1993 chris craft 23' w/ the 5.8l omc; 2 years ago, it began running very rich - it was actually like dumping fuel.
3 mechanics said it was stuck injectors; 2,000.00 later, nope; Bought a used injection module and had it installed, another 2,000.00. It ran like new up until 6 months ago when it would not do more than 2,800 rpms. We put the old module back in and it ran like it did before spray out fuel, but at 2800, it quit. so we decided this time that it was not the module. Have now replaced both fuel pumps, nope. Replaced everything we can think of having to do with spark, ignition, timeing, fuel,
Did you ever figure yours out?
Anybody have any ideas?
It runs great up to 2800 rpm then it acts like it is starved for fuel.
thank you
 

p3orion

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

I am looking for a fuel injection module for a 5.8L omc - anyone know of a used one?
 

Don S

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

Welcome to iboats p3orion, you really need to start a new thread of your own as noted in the forum rules, and the Announcement at the top of the forum.
 

Shoebox

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Re: 1993 OMC Cobra 5.8L EFI, slight surge at 2800-3000 rpm

I have a 1993 chris craft 23' w/ the 5.8l omc; 2 years ago, it began running very rich - it was actually like dumping fuel.
3 mechanics said it was stuck injectors; 2,000.00 later, nope; Bought a used injection module and had it installed, another 2,000.00. It ran like new up until 6 months ago when it would not do more than 2,800 rpms. We put the old module back in and it ran like it did before spray out fuel, but at 2800, it quit. so we decided this time that it was not the module. Have now replaced both fuel pumps, nope. Replaced everything we can think of having to do with spark, ignition, timeing, fuel,
Did you ever figure yours out?
Anybody have any ideas?
It runs great up to 2800 rpm then it acts like it is starved for fuel.
thank you
I did the tune-up, new cap, rotor, and plugs. Seems to have fixed the problem. Took it out several more times after that and no issues.
 
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