1996 454 385 hp hesitates

steinjo

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Has EFI with MPI and a VST system (not a cooler)<br /><br />So far:<br /><br />Changed plugs, wires, cap and rotor<br />Changed fuel water separator<br />Did a compression check<br />Ran engine out of a separate fuel tank (proved it wasn't the anti syphon or supply line filter in the tank.)<br /><br />Today did a fuel pressure test on the rail. Manual says should be between 34-36 psi. At idle and low speed hovered at about 31. At high speed (60 mph) the pressure dipped to 25 and it hesitated. <br /><br />Back at the dock after shut off, the pressure read about 25 - 30 psi for at least an hour. (Good sign not the VST or electric pump?)<br /><br />Took off hose that feeds the vapor separator tank from the lift pump and there was no pressure or fuel.<br /><br />Took off supply line at the mechanical pump and it was dry. Removed fuel/water separator filter and that was only 3/4 full. Thought there should have been fuel in all the above...<br /><br />Removed anti syphon valve and it was hard to blow through but it would open. Don't know how hard it should be so I'm getting a new one. As mentioned above ran from an outboard tank and still hesitated.<br /><br />My mechanic partner seems to think that either air is getting in somewhere around the fuel lift pump or the water separator or the fuel lift pump is malfunctioning. We thought it was the VST but now don't think so. What do you think?<br />Thanks, can't tell you how much you guys have helped me.
 

a.d.mobile

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

do the FPR test fuel pressure regulator sounds like it is sticking. do you have the book yet?
 

steinjo

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

Don't quite understand. What's the FPR test. Which book are you refering to?
 

a.d.mobile

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

the service manual for fuel system, but it probally wont help if you going good then burp it drops out. when you change that anti-syphon pull the fuel pick up tube out check for cracks around the neck there should be a screen on the pick up end. maybe this mechanical fuel pump is bad and the electric is working overtime pulling fuel thru the system. do pressure and volume check on the mechanical. then if that is ok, install a seperate tank (IE outboard tank& fuel hose) see if it still does it, if it does squeeze the primmer balb on the ob gas tank and see if you can eliminate the issue. let us know what you find.
 

steinjo

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

I did run it out of an outboard tank and it still hesitated. Rule out screen and anti siphon. Didn't squeeze primer bulb though. Would that make up for a faulty lift pump.<br /><br />How is the best way to hook up my pressure gauge to the lift pump?<br /><br />Please explain "volume check"
 

a.d.mobile

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

pumping the balub would keep a constant fuel supply. check the mechanical pumpthe old time way, pressure check the line from pump going to the fuel unit. need a psi gauge with a pice of hose on it to push over the line. then use a pice of old fuel line and put in a 2 litre bottle and crank engine to see if she is pumping. all this is done from the outlet of the mechanical pump. bob....
 

steinjo

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

I think the fuel lift pump was bad. changed it out but haven't ran it yet. While I had the seats, sun deck, etc. off I changed my through hull exhaust hose and lower exhaust bellows. One of the 4 inch hoses was completly collapsed and the captains choice flap had come loose and was lodged against the broken rubber in the tube. Wow, big job but worth the dirty work.
 

steinjo

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

Fixed the problem after a year. For others that may have done a search, it was a clogged filter in the vapor separator tank. Basically had to rebuild it.<br /><br />Till the next issue...
 

lilmandavis

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Re: 1996 454 385 hp hesitates

hey mobile!! im from ortonville!! originally
 
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