1996 ocean pro 175 problems

[shaeleblanc]

ok guys i been having a couple problems with my 175 for the last couple seasons that i need to get worked out since i will be getting alot more time to use it this year. i have my 175 since it was new in 1996 it was hung on my bay boat which is now gone but before i removed it from my bay boat and put it on my pontoon boat i was in the process of fixing a couple things and they have just never cleared up. my current problems are it will not start if left unused for a couple days with out pulling the cover off and getting the motor to pop over. it was doing this before the swap and just could not get it figured out with the limited time i have had to play with it. prior to swapping hulls i had the power pack replaced the plugs replaced the compression is 110-115 across the board. i also went through the carbs put clean gas all the time. and it still has this problem the starting procedure is the normal pump the bulb hard, push in the key and nothing same process and a little throttle nothing. i have to take the cover off and cover one of the carbs with my hand get it to pop over and then it takes about 15 min of constant playing with the throttle and restarting to get it to run and it smokes a whole lot. after that it is good for the rest of the day and on to the next if i let it sit for a few days i have to repeat the process. again it was doing it before i swapped boats and it has had a full service job done by me and is still doing the same thing...

next problem is right now it sat for the winter i turned the fuel off to the motor. and i have had a good bit of oil come down the shaft onto the ground what would have caused this it use to never do that till this winter.

 

[Dhadley]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

When you say it won't "pop over" and "nothing happens" it sounds like you mean it won't turn over with the key but I think you mean it turns over but won't start.

Assuming it turns over but won't start the first thing that comes to mind is the primer isn't working. The deal with the hand over the carb leads to that conclusion. Anyway, have you checked the primer operation?

Start with the basics. Sounds like you have good compression. What spark plugs are you using?

 

[w2much]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

Thats way to much work. Primer solonoid inoperative.Check it.

 

[shaeleblanc]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

yea that is what i meant. i am using the champion plug that it recommended. but yes exactly it with pop like it wants to start then will die. will only get it to pop with the hand over the carb. can you give me a pn for the primer setup on this motor i was trying to find it but had no luck. i figured that was the problem but like i said i had limited time to check it out in detail.

 

[jonesg]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

Solenoid for cold starting..
on my similar engine,

In between the 2 top carbs, it looks like a plastic cylinder with a red lever.
You should hear it click when the key is pushed in.
It should not leak any fuel, they sell a repair kit if the seals leak.
You may have moved the lever by accident, it should lie along the length of the solenoid.

 

[shaeleblanc]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

i was hearing it click but it was still doing this so maybe the red lever is in the wrong position should it be in the horizontal or vertical position. it might have the seals leaking also causing it not to prime correctly ?

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

I had a 150 just like it, I had to replace my intake manifold gasket, it had swollen up closing off the injector passages, making it hard to crank. It had the factory black rubbery gasket, I replaced it with a stiffer type gasket, cranks like a champ now.

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

the red lever should be back along the solenoid not pointing away from it

 

[shaeleblanc]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

ok i will check the red lever i will be de winterizing it thursday and i am going to crank it over and see what i find. i dont think it can be the gasket the way it acts i have to hand choke it to make it pop and then it is good to go after about 15 min of playing.

 

[shaeleblanc]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

the red lever was facing down along the solinoid, called the dealer and a new one of these solinoids is 170 bucks but i hear the solinoid clicking when i go to turn it over so i am thinking maybe it blew the gasket out on the top of it and that could be what was causing the problems and the oil leaking down all over out the motor cover.

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

could just be a hose not connected...find the leak..have someone turn key to run position and push the key in after you pump the bubble up. solinoind is supposed to make a click sound when activated.

 

[jonesg]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

They sell a rebuild seal kit for the solenoid, its a lot cheaper than throwing a new one in there.

 

[shaeleblanc]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

cool man point me in the right direction but i am possitive there is no disconnected lines i think the solinoid it broken and that it is also allowing the motor to flood.

 

[jonesg]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

can't find squat without the outboard model number, so try here.
http://www.marineengine.com/parts/parts.php

I looked on iBoats but can't see it.
It will probably be a sierra rebuilt kit.

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

I would doubt your problem is soliniod related...but maybe it is..Have you checked your carbs?? especially the needle valves and floats??

 

[shaeleblanc]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

yep and yep.... the motor runs fine if i start it everyday and it will only do this problem of not starting when i let it sit for about a week. if it would be the needles and floats it would start but idle like crap, and not run well like i stated that is not the problems. then to even get her to pop i have to hand choke one of the carbs. that is even when pumping the bulb and hitting the electric primer on the key. also we have discovered that the primer must be it because i have no click when i press the key in right now.

 

[jonesg]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

Ahh so theres no click,

look for an elec gremlin .
put a meter to the terminals at the solenoid and see if meter responds to pushing the key in.

The problem could be at the ignition switch all the way to a dud solenoid and any plug or connecting wire between.

2 Strokes like to start quite wet and run rich til warmed up.

 

[SparkieBoat]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

once you get your solenoid clicking again, and you check to make sure it is working by pulling a primer hose off and seeing if it squirts. I had to change my intake manifold gaskets, the injected fuel moves through a passage created by this gasket, mine had swollen up and closed off the passages, once I changed them wala cold cranking no problem anymore.

 

[Redfish2000]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

,,,

 

[jonesg]

Re: 1996 ocean pro 175 problems

hi redfish, thread hijacking isn't allowed,
just copy and paste your question to a new post.

You'll get lots of help.