1997 Johnson 175 ? Need Help ASAP !

lucey

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1997 Johnson 175 Outboard motor on a 21 ft Seaswirl. The boat was on the coast traveling from Prince Rupert to Dundas island (27 miles). The boat used 1/4 tank of fuel. When coming back from Dundas the boat conked out and was towed into shore. Went to a boat mechanic. He replaced the heat sensor as well as the spark plugs. For some reason he put in a colder range plug (i believe). The boat started developing a few issues after. First it used waaayyy too much fuel on the same run (3/4 of a tank). The battery does not seem to charge and the RPM guage is not working anymore. The boat is using roughly 15-16 gallons per hour. The plugs were switched out to the original plugs that were in the boat when bought. I need some help with this one. Ideas ?

Can someone tell me the plug numbers that should be in this boat. My father in law got hosed it sounds like. I can provide more specific information if needed. Thanks
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 1997 Johnson 175 ? Need Help ASAP !

I retired a few years before that engine was manufactured but I believe that the following information would pertain. If not, I'm sure that I will be corrected shortly.

Spark plugs:
Champion QL77JC4 plugs, gapped at .030

Tachometer/Charging system:
(Testing Tachometer With Water Cooled Regulator/Rectifier)
(J. Reeves)

A quick check is to simply plug in a another new tachometer as a piece of test equipment. If the new tach works properly and the old tach didn't, obviously the old tach is faulty.... but usually boaters don't carry around a spare tach (see below).

A faulty rectifier wouldn't damage the tachometer, the tachometer simply wouldn't work. This is due to the fact that the tachometer operates off of the charging system and the rectifier converts AC voltage to DC voltage, enabling the charging system. A faulty rectifier disables the charging system, and the tachometer simply doesn't register.

However.... those water cooled regulator/rectifiers that are used on the 35 ampere charging systems (and some others) bring into play a different type problem, and as you've probably found out, they are really a pain to troubleshoot via the proper procedure. There's an easier way.

The tachometer sending/receiving setup operates off of the gray wire at the tachometer. That same gray wire exists at the engine wiring harness which is connected to the engine electrical terminal strip. You'll see that there is a gray wire leading from the regulator/rectifier to that terminal strip, and that there is another gray wire attached to it. That other gray wire is the wire leading to the tachometer which is the one you're looking for.

Remove that gray wire that leads to the tachometer. Now, find the two (2) yellow wires leading from the stator to that terminal strip. Hopefully one of them is either yellow/gray or is connected to a yellow/gray wire at the terminal strip. If so, connect the gray wire you removed previously to that yellow/gray terminal. Start the engine and check the tachometers operation, and if the tachometer operates as it should, then the regulator/rectifier is faulty and will require replacing. If the tachometer is still faulty, replace the tachometer.

If neither of the yellow wires from the stator is yellow/gray, and neither is attached to a yellow/gray wire, then attach that gray tachometer wire to either yellow stator wire, then the other yellow wire, checking the tachometer operation on both connections.

I've found this method to be a quick and efficient way of finding out which component is faulty.... the tachometer or the regulator/rectifier. It sounds drawn out but really only takes a very short time to run through. If the water cooled regulator/rectifier proves to be faulty, don't put off replacing it as they have been known to catch on fire with disastrous consequences.

The stator under the flywheel is the beginning of both the ignition and charging system. Notice the large black coils on that stator. If any of them are leaking/oozing a substance down on the powerhead area, replace it regardless of whatever reading you may obtain from it. Two of those black coils (at rear of stator) provide the necessary voltage to the powerpack needed to energize the ignition. When those coils start to melt down, the voltage drops and results in weak, erratic, and eventually no ignition.
 

Chris1956

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Re: 1997 Johnson 175 ? Need Help ASAP !

Lucey, My '98 Jphnny 150V6 has a decal on the midsection, stating what plugs should be used. In my case it is QL78YC. Your motor may use the same plugs.

Unfortunately 15-16 gal of fuel is about right for WOT operation. Since you were cruising at less than WOT, your mileage sounds bad. Pull the plugs and see if they are all firing(they should be brown/tan, and the same). If not you have an electrical problem.
 
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