1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

1952m38

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What i have is a 1998 OMC/Volvo 4.3 Gi model #43FBPYC. The problem i have is when the engine is cold only. it is hard to start6. If you give it any amount of throttle it will choke itself out. It has to be started it neutral and when it does start, it runs very rough for maybe 2 minutes, then clears up and runs great. After warm-up, you can shut it off and restart it all day long with no issues. This is only when its cold. I have replaced the plugs, wires, cap. rotor, coolant sensor, and map sensor. The local boat mechanics are a month out. Please help:confused:
 

Levinz11

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Re: 1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

I would say most carbed engines start at least a little rough. Take a look at your choke.
 

1952m38

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Re: 1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

This is the TBI set-up, so no carb. It seems like a sensor to me, as it clears its self up after a few minutes of rough idle.
 

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Re: 1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

This is the TBI set-up, so no carb. It seems like a sensor to me, as it clears its self up after a few minutes of rough idle.

Oh, my bad.

Common issues with FI engines with cold start up probs are: bad/dirty cold start injector, bad temp sensor/sender.
 

1952m38

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Re: 1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

I have replaced the plugs, wires, cap, rotor, map sensor, and the temp sensor already. On cold start up, do both injectors pulse or is there only one that is specific to cold starting? Thanks for your replys. I really appreciate it.
 

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Re: 1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

I know jack s**t about your engine. I was just throwing some suggestions out there. If you plan on doing the maintenance work yourself you should buy the factory manual or see if you can download it somewhere.
 

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Re: 1998 4.3Gi hard to start cold and rough idle....HELP

I wanted to add my update to this thread, for future readers. Hopefully 1952m38 and myself can save you some money and time.

I have the same engine, 4.3gi, same vintage, same exact problem as the OP. At first, I tuned the engine up fully (wires, plugs, cap/rotor, fuel filter). No change. Hard cold starting actually seemed to get worse.

Change the IAC valve & the engine coolant sensor. Hey, the parts were 15 years old and I sleep better at night knowing they are new anyways. Made the hard starting decrease slightly.

Tested my low pressure fuel pump. Inop. Replaced pump. Now the boat will crank for 10 seconds, nothing. Try again, sputter and stall out. Try again, it might start or it might sputter and stall out again. But usually by then it will fire. Before I replaced the fuel pump it would just crank and crank and crank for 5 minutes (in 10 second sessions) and no fire. So thats progress at least...

Heres what me and the OP have come to the rough conclusion of: The hard starting is only when cold. We've got fuel. Theory: Coil or ignition module not firing when cold, thus at first the engine floods with fuel, hence the "sputter and stall" behavior. The spark is either non existent at first or too weak to fire the rich, cold start mixture. When the engine is warm, it starts RIGHT up. Like fires less than a second after turning the key. Lean warm mixture = easy to ignite. Cold rich mixture = ehhh, not so easy.

1952m38 is going to replace his coil or his ignition module this weekend and post his results. Again, posting this to future readers with the same issue.
 
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