1998 Bayliner 3255 Avanti Sunbridge

grimreaper

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1998 Bayliner 3255 Avanti Sunbridge

Hey, I'm looking at a 1998 3255 Sunbridge. She is still with the orignal owner. She only has 35hrs on the twin mercs. Does anyone know about this boat. I live in Jersey and will mainly be on the Delaware River to Maryland with her. I have heard all the jokes about theses boats (Lining the bottom of the bay), but how are they now days. Are they a dependable vessel? Any input would be great. I have a 30' Sunrunner right now, but this is a really clean boat for the asking price<br />Thanks,<br />grimreaper
 

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Bayliners are price-built boats, GR. <br /><br />They have a bad reputation, though I don't know how much could be wrong with a '98 model I wouldn't touch it.<br /><br />Good luck. :)
 

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i'd unfortunately have to agree.. <br /><br />doesn't much matter what year, make or size, they all generally have problems of one sort or another. known for poor materials (gel, electrical, gauges, etc), poor craftsmanship, changing suppliers from year to year, etc..<br /><br />i've got one customer with a 35 and Chrysler diesels, scary boat from top to bottom...<br /><br />like said, a 98 should be in decent shape. not sure i'd wanna have it in 5 or 6 years tho....
 

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Thanks guys,<br />This seems to be the same answer I'm getting all over. Thanks again for the input. I think I will let this one just float by!
 

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My two cents:<br /><br />Couldn't speak to a larger, newer Bayliner, but my 1988 Capri is 19.5' and I love the boat. Real well built hull and interior. Saw her take some real shots (long story) and stay afloat. Lots of people will rip on them and that upsets me, unless you owned one you shouldn't badmouth them. The way it handles rough water (the race), corners and rides, I would take her over any other boat I've seen on Long Island Sound in that size range.
 

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Find some people that own them and ask them what they think. The "bottom-liner" days are far-gone. Ignorant people speak of things they know little about. Bayliner is a "price built" boat, but I can name a two dozen others that are as well. Most of what you hear bad is what some guy heard about his brothers buddies bayliner, etc, or "I read on the internet...". With proper maintance, that boat will serve you fine if thats the layout your looking for. You're not going to get the fit and finish of a Hatteras or Tiarra, but your not going to pay for it either. The downside to the bayliner is that they don't hold resale very well(because of the unsubstantiated reputation), but that may be a bonus as you're looking at used.<br /><br />"doesn't much matter what year, make or size, they all generally have problems of one sort or another. known for poor materials (gel, electrical, gauges, etc), poor craftsmanship, changing suppliers from year to year, etc.."<br /><br />I believe if you do the research you will find that per boat sold, on late model boats, there problems per boat are not above average. Problems with gauges and such will be the same across brands. Bayline does not make thier own gauges(or motors, or steering systems, etc..). You do have bayliner employees installing these items, but I think that is a mute point. Hull and gel problems were prevolant in the early 80's bayliners. Brunswick makes half of the boats on the water for crying out loud. I'm not saying all their lines are the same level of quality, but I dont think any of their lines in this day and age are the garbage that people who have no clue like to spout off about. Name me any boat brand and I can find somebody with a horror story.<br /><br />I dont own a bayliner. I did own one that I fished salmon tournaments in everything the Great Lakes could throw at it for three seasons and my biggest problem I had with the boat was a 5 years old, the speedo on the dash wouldnt read. I put over 600hrs on the boat in 3 seasons. I would have looked at them when I bought my new boat, but I got a good deal on a different one. <br /><br />Everyone on here would lead you to believe that a GW is the best thing since sliced bread, and per boat produced, I can find you more hull problems with late model Gradys than late model bayliners, period, but people with no first hand knowlege will keep spouting what they heard...<br /><br />Take it for what its worth, but if someone coughs up an opionion, ask if they owned one of if they're just regurgitating "what they heard".
 

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Jason, <br /><br />I couldn't agree with you more! Every boat has the potential for problems if abused or ignored. Bayliners are and were typically a budget oriented boat but the same could be said for tons of other products, yet with proper maintenance they can provide years of enjoyable service! I can say that the Force-Bayliner marriage was a disaster but that is no longer the case. The boats are sound.
 

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Jason,<br /><br />i should have realized my post would offend Bayliner owners. but your references to me as ignorant, no clue, etc are founded in nothing... <br /><br />i'm a 20 yr fulltime head mechanic and have worked on thousands of boats, including dozens of Bayliners annually. these are my unbiased views on the brand based on what i see on a daily basis.. i consider my views on the line to be an honest portrayal of the product as opposed to an owner of one or two Bayliners who more than likely is going to justify his purchase in his own mind. <br /><br />yes, they are a price built boat, granted, but honestly that means nothing to me as a mechanic. it's strictly a job comparison for me. all manufacturers have issues of some sort or another. heck, look at Hat's, some of the worst blister jobs i've had have been Hats. Sea Rays have their good points and bad points, etc..<br /><br />but on a whole, the percentage of Bayliners with issues in my marina is much higher than any other brand. <br /><br />i would say that they have done better in the last 5 years, but still have some glaring product quality issues (how about the 99 Bayliner i did last month where the windshield frame was falling apart).. and those boats are not old enough yet to give any firm evaluation imo.<br /><br />my apologies to the Bayliner owners but it's just an honest evaluation from an experienced mechanic.
 

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Bayliner got their reputation from the late 80's with the smaller boats, ie: 16-20'. They indeed aren't built well, regardless of what people may seem to think. If you have questions, pop over to the project boat forum and take a look at some of the pics of the late 80's Capri's several of us are rebuilding. As the owner of what's left of one, I will say they were slapped together. <br /><br />That said, with the newer boats Bayliner seems to be trying to detach themselves from the quality issues that plagued them during that period. The new ones really aren't bad. The advantage is that since they have the often unsubstantiated reputation, they can be usually be bought for a song. People have heard "they're a bad boat" and the subsequent retail plummets, when it's probably undeserving. As a result, it's a buyers market. <br /><br />I'd get it surveyed, just to be sure, but I wouldn't walk away that quickly. If you're the kind of person that's going to worry about what your friends say, it may not be the best boat to buy, but if you're looking for what may be a great inexpensive boat you may find that it's just the ticket. <br /><br />Just my thoughts..<br /><br />Roger
 

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I'm with Ryoken, I too have worked on more than a couple of boats over the years....... <br /><br />New, Old, Used, or Abused...........<br />I've Never found a Bilgeliner that I'd call a Quality Built Boat.....<br />If present Bilgeliner owners are Offended, I'm Sorry.....<br /> If Your boat suits your needs, I'm Glad......<br />But, that Doesn't Mean Bilgeliners are Quality Boats......<br />They're Not.......<br />Except Maybe CCrews, But, then again, Very little of his boat is Original Bilgeliner.....<br /><br />Not to start a Riot again, <br />But, My Opinion , based on the Facts I've found to be True ,
Bilgeliners are built with the Least amount of Inferior materials possible, to create the Illusion of a Quality Boat.....<br />
 

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I own one, have for 5 years. I would disagree. Working on one and owning one are two completely different things.
 

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I really don't take that working on boats tells the entire story. Sometimes problems may occur by operator error other than manufaturer problems. If yoru in an area that sells more Bayliners than anything else, of course you'll work on more. On St. clair there are more Sea Rays out there than any other boat. Of couse more show up to get worked on. That is simple math. As for Bayliner not being a quality boat, it's not. It's a priced-point boat that usually performs very well for the cost. If you want a Quality boat, go buy a Tiara. If you can't afford one but still wanna hit the waterways, buy a Bayliner. I personally owned one, as well as about 25 of my friends. These are guys with mid 80's to present Trophies that fish Hard every weekend with very little problems. And most of those are mechanical. Can you blame Bayliner for a Atlernator that went after 500 hrs on a Merc I/O? No. They didn't build it. They just dropped it in. Can you blame Bayliner for a spun coupler after 50 hrs? Maybe was it a bad coupler to begin with or improper installation of the I/O at the Bayliner Factory? <br /><br />As with any used boat. Get a survey. That will tell the story. But don't be turned away from the "I heard Bayliners Sux because my buddy says so" stuff you hear. I had one, and I'd buy another one if cost became a factor for me. If you can spend more does that mean you'll get better, maybe but not always. As of now...... Tiara is my next purchace to replace my 28' Seasport!
 

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i'm a 20 yr fulltime head mechanic and have worked on thousands of boats
20 years and all they let you work on is toilets? :eek:
 

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Ha ! Toilets! Now that's funny. :D
 

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great first post WR87265!
 

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never owned a bayliner, but i hate when people call these boats crap. have several friends with them and all are happy. they are even more happy with the money in their wallet. they are a value boat- yes. and that's what you get- a good value for the money. if the boat gets you out on the water, let's you fish or ski, and you enjoy the water- then it's worth the money. if you are going to spend 52 weekends a year out on the ocean, maybe you should put a little more money into a better quality boat. the people that search for that 25 yr old whaler (sorry jb) they can afford that makes them feel good and impress their friends, well, i think it's just as foolish as avoiding a bayliner.<br /><br />i own a sunbird- another value boat. i love it. runs great, catches fish, and gets me home every night.
 

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I also think Bayliners gets a little worse rap than they should. The problems I've seen with the hulls are mostly poor hardware installation, no bedding or backup plates, low quality fabrics on the interior, etc. <br /><br />I never owned one but did get a chance to participate in chain sawing a mid 80s bowrider into pieces. It came off the trailer at 70mph and was destroyed beyond repair. The stringers, transom, glassing, etc. of the hull & deck were surprisingly beefy and impressed me. Glasswork was cosmetically crude but all stringers and woodwork were sealed properly and had plenty of glass over them. The hull was no different than most production boats that cost a lot more.
 
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