1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

[daschtick]

I wanted to remove the ball from the anti-siphon valve in the pickup tube (per 12footer), but I am not sure if I can pull the tube from the tank. The tank is a model FT2322, and it is a white plastic or fiberglass type of material. The fuel line is attached to a 90 degree fitting, which appears to be threaded into a permanent fitting on the tank. Will unscrewing the 90 degree fitting bring up the pickup tube? I don't want to damage anything, as it looks IMPOSSIBLE to change out the tank.<br /><br />Any help/ideas are GREATLY appreciated.<br /><br />-Nick

 

[Hooty]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

I'm not sure where 12footer is but the anti-siphon valve may be in that elbow.<br /><br />c/6<br /><br />Hooty

 

[daschtick]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

Well, here's an update. I unscrewed the elbow from the tank, and then the whole tube came up with it. Surprisingly, I didn't find a valve anywhere in the entire line! (Perhaps because it is fitted to an outboard?) Anyway, the inside if the tank, screen on the end of the pickup tube, and the entire fuel line (to the transom fitting) look clean. I installed a new Quicksilver line (including bulb) from the transom to the motor, and will be starting off with fresh gas. I hope this cures my fuel starvation sysmptoms.

 

[12Footer]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

Sorry, I just caught this thread..Maybee the previous owner or his wrench removed it.<br />How did the compression test come-out? The fuel pump will quit pumping if compression falls below 40PSI on iether cyclinder, (if this is a 50HP).<br /><br />While you have it out of the tank, see if you can get air thru it and the fuel line (Minus the fittings. Speakin of which, look into the possability of getting rid of the Chrysler "air-chuck" type fittings (if so equipped), and replacing them with the Merc type. Those Chrysler fitting are a pain to deal with in the dark, in te back of a pitching cramped boat...that is, if you run dual tanks.Also i would Install an inline filter. <br />If you have a built in tank, my guess is, it's got some contaminants in it, if not lots.<br />I use the portables 6 gallon tanks, and find I must clean them once a season. I had constant water condensation issues on every built-in tank I ever had, and kept water-dri sticks onboard all the time.<br />Just curious, what model/hp/year motor do you have?

 

[lakensea]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

The hose barb that threads into the tank pickup should have the anti-siphon ball in it.

 

[daschtick]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

I'm actually the original owner of this boat. It is a 1998 Bayliner 1800LS with the (in?)famous Force 120 outboard of the same year. I have not yet done a compression test, as this has been a fairly random problem since about the second year, and I felt that it should(?) be something simpler.<br /><br />This spring, I completely emptied the built in tank, and inspected it. It is actually perfectly clean inside - no debris whatsoever, in the pick up screen or anywhere else. I fully dismantled the pick up tube, and the 90 degree elbow, and found nothing but clean and open plumbing (and no ball valve anywhere). I also, replaced the fuel line to the transom fitting, and the fuel from the transom to the motor with an OEM piece (Mercury type fitting). I am hoping that this problem does not re-occur this season, but if it does, my next course of actions will be:<br /><br />1. When the motor begins to stumble, loosen the fuel cap. My fuel intake and vent are both in the same housing. Maybe the cap is not ventilating properly.<br /><br />2. Carry a spare tank. Maybe my built in tank simply has "issues"?<br /><br />3. Compression test. This is an easy one to do, but the motor is not very old, and I have only run Quicksilver 50:1 oil since new. Also, the motor starts and runs flawlessly 99% of the time. I think this one is not very likely, but yet, it is a boat - anything is possible!<br /><br />I am hoping that the new Mercury fuel line and bulb solves this issue, as I had been using a "Tempo" bulb since shortly after delivery, due to a small leak in the original bulb. This Tempo bulb never quite firmed up like the original, and maybe it had been trapping air or leaking back.<br /><br />I'll let you know after my trial run in a few weeks. (Yes, I said a few weeks. I am a new father, and my free-time has been recently diminished!)<br /><br />Thanks for all of your help!<br /><br />-Nick

 

[C.J.]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

I have a 1995 Bayliner Trophy doing the same thing. Sometimes the boat will not start unless I push the throttle all the way to fast in neutral. I have replaced the fuel lines and inserted a clear plastic hose after the ball and just before the motor. I am getting lots of air bubbles. This intermittent problem has been going on for four years. I bought a new motor two years ago and I still have the problem. I looked at the pick up tube and saw no obvious problems. I do not have a check valve anywhere that I can see. I am going to move the clear line to where the fuel comes out of the tank and see what happens there. I have replaced all the fuel lines, the ball and the gas/water filter. After I run the boat for a while and then sit fishing for a while, the boat will not start unless I push the throttle way up. Sometimes after idling I push the throttle in gear to pick up speed and the boat sounds like it starves for fuel and will actually stall. Very disturbing. I have a metal tank 140 gallons with elbow connector coming out of the tank. The tube is pressed onto the metal connector (it is a hard plastic around 15 inches with an angle cut on the bottom and no screen). I replaced the fitting at the hull for the vent line.
C.J.

 

[Mark42]

Re: 1998 Bayliner pickup tube (12Footer?)

I have a 1995 Bayliner Trophy doing the same thing. Sometimes the boat will not start unless I push the throttle all the way to fast in neutral. I have replaced the fuel lines and inserted a clear plastic hose after the ball and just before the motor. I am getting lots of air bubbles. This intermittent problem has been going on for four years. I bought a new motor two years ago and I still have the problem. I looked at the pick up tube and saw no obvious problems. I do not have a check valve anywhere that I can see. I am going to move the clear line to where the fuel comes out of the tank and see what happens there. I have replaced all the fuel lines, the ball and the gas/water filter. After I run the boat for a while and then sit fishing for a while, the boat will not start unless I push the throttle way up. Sometimes after idling I push the throttle in gear to pick up speed and the boat sounds like it starves for fuel and will actually stall. Very disturbing. I have a metal tank 140 gallons with elbow connector coming out of the tank. The tube is pressed onto the metal connector (it is a hard plastic around 15 inches with an angle cut on the bottom and no screen). I replaced the fitting at the hull for the vent line.
C.J.

Just in case you didn't notice, you responded to a thread that is 6 years old. I don't believe those members even post anymore.

You might want to start a new thread for your specific problem. Or not.