1998 Mercruiser 5.0 running problem - Camshaft???

finsterx8

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Boat is a 98 Regal with twin 5lt, 2bl (GM with Mercarbs),
I have had ongoing running problems with a boat I purchased end of season last year. I have dealt with water in fuel, carb overhaul, ignition timing, new spark plugs and confirmed firing order and still running poorly. I though it was a bad carb as but switched with the other motor and still terrible. I have switched modules as well to test, all external parts seem to be original.
Compression is good from 148-155psi.
The motor was apparently overhauled due to overheating a year before I purchased the boat and did not get used a whole lot.
Basically the motor runs poorly at idle, (sounds kind of like it is trying catch up to itself like late timing) which makes me think 4 cylinders are running well. Midrange it sounds like it is blubbering as if fuel was dribbling into one venturi, the engine does seem pretty good above 3,500rpm. The engine vibrates in Neutral and in gear and definitely is much louder than the good running engine.
After switching carbs and realizing that was not it I'm thinking there is something related to a camshaft failure, incorrect camshaft timing or incorrect part.
The boat is gone into storage for the winter and unfortunately I did not check with a vacuum gauge while I had access. I am wondering if the valve covers can be removed without pulling exhaust manifolds and can the intake and camshaft be replaced with the boat in the water?

Also is it common for camshaft to fail in marine applications?
Thanks for your help.
 

Bondo

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Ayuh,..... Yer motor should be a roller cam, so no,.....

What is the color of the spark plugs,..??
 

finsterx8

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Plus were black, 4 were wetter. There is unburnt fuel in the water.
Your 'no' answer, is that to 'can it be changed in the boat?
 

Scott Danforth

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seriously doubt its a cam issue plus you can pull the intake and look

also, if you suspect an internal issue to the motor, pull the motor, dont try to kill yourself working in the bilge

remember, to get to the cam, you must drop the oil pan first, then you need to have a straight shot, 27" long in front of the motor to get the cam out.

you must have a good 12" in front of the damper to get the damper puller in there

much less work and headache pulling the motor

my guess, dirty fuel system is your issue
 

finsterx8

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seriously doubt its a cam issue plus you can pull the intake and look

also, if you suspect an internal issue to the motor, pull the motor, dont try to kill yourself working in the bilge

remember, to get to the cam, you must drop the oil pan first, then you need to have a straight shot, 27" long in front of the motor to get the cam out.

you must have a good 12" in front of the damper to get the damper puller in there

much less work and headache pulling the motor

my guess, dirty fuel system is your issue
The boat has 2 tanks and I've run both engines on the port and starboard tank. This motor runs terrible on both tanks and the starboard motor runs good on either tank.
There is plenty of room in the bilge, I have no trailer for the boat so the marina would have to lift and block the boat. They would have to pull the engine as well.
If it can be done in the water it would save me a couple grand. Plus I have no confidence in their ability to work on it or charge an honest amount.
 

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The boat has 2 tanks and I've run both engines on the port and starboard tank. This motor runs terrible on both tanks and the starboard motor runs good on either tank.
There is plenty of room in the bilge, I have no trailer for the boat so the marina would have to lift and block the boat. They would have to pull the engine as well.
If it can be done in the water it would save me a couple grand. Plus I have no confidence in their ability to work on it or charge an honest amount.
the fuel system is everything from the cap and vent to just below the carb.

as stated, doubt its your cam shaft. you can pull the intake and look. then you are only out about a day and $100 for gaskets, etc.

Im leaning toward improper fuel pressure........so measure the fuel pressure at the inlet (there are test fittings you need to buy.

so things that can cause low fuel pressure:
plugged tank vent
bad tank valve
dirty tank
clogged pickup tube filter (yes, there usually is a strainer in the pickup tube)
bad or sticking anti-siphon valve
plugged fuel/water separator
bad fuel pump
sticking needle/seat

additionally, water in the fuel system will make it run bad too
 
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