1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

[trobinson017]

The hose leading from the water pump to the pee hole has become disconnected from the pump side. I can't find where it's supposed to be connected to. The hose end has a ball type end to it surrounded by a rubber sleeve secured with a ziptie. So it looks to me like the ball end fits into a socket on the pump side and the rubber sleeve keeps them together. Problem is, I can't find any such fitting on the powerhead. I did find a hole on the pee hole side of the powerhead, about the size of a quarter, that goes in about 2 inches. I tried to get the disconnected hose in there but it's at such an angle that the hose crimps in half. So i'm not sure if that's the right place for it.

Anyone know where this end of the pee hole hose goes? Is there an online schematic of the powerhead with cooling system? I don't want to buy a book just to fix this problem.
Any help would be most appreciated. Please email trobinson017@yahoo.com

 

[Dhadley]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

Well, there is no hose connected to the water pump assembly in the lower unit. But I think you're talking about the aspirator.

In the starbord pan there is a plastic fitting where the water exits for the overboard indicator. It has a plastic nut on the outside. That fitting has two small hose barbs, one is capped off and the other has a hose that goes up to a 90* fitting in the block. That's the line that has the water running thru it.

There is a slightly larger hose at the top of that pan fitting. I think that's what you're talking about. It's in a "U" shape. At the other end is a check ball fitting. Over he end of that check ball is a larger piece of hose with a couple odd cut outs in the open end.

That's an aspirator. It sucks out any water that may get into the pan area. The water from the small hose creates a siphon effect at the hose with the funny cuts. It has funny cut outs so it can lay in the bottom of the pan and water can still get sucked in.

It's not supposed to be hooked to anything, it just sits there.

 

[trobinson017]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

Dhadley, thanks for the detailed description. The hose I was describing is the aspirator hose as it has two notches cut opposite each other on one end. I thought those were damages that caused the hose to become disconnected. However, I still have a problem in that there's no water coming out of the overboard indicator (telltale, peehole, etc). I thought this "disconnected" hose was the culprit. So I guess I need to look at the thermostat or the water pump? Even though the motor is a '99, when I bought it in 2003 I was the first owner as it had been sitting in a warehouse awaiting bankruptcy ruling for a boat dealer. I've had it for 3 years so maybe the water pump should be changed out? Is that something I can do? I am somewhat mechanically inclined. Are there any online resources to describe the parts needed and how to replace them?

Also, I am still curious then about the quarter sized, 2 inch deep hole I found in the rear of the powerhead. I didn't feel a bolt or anything when I stuck my finger in it. Any ideas?

Thanks again!

Well, there is no hose connected to the water pump assembly in the lower unit. But I think you're talking about the aspirator.

In the starbord pan there is a plastic fitting where the water exits for the overboard indicator. It has a plastic nut on the outside. That fitting has two small hose barbs, one is capped off and the other has a hose that goes up to a 90* fitting in the block. That's the line that has the water running thru it.

There is a slightly larger hose at the top of that pan fitting. I think that's what you're talking about. It's in a "U" shape. At the other end is a check ball fitting. Over he end of that check ball is a larger piece of hose with a couple odd cut outs in the open end.

That's an aspirator. It sucks out any water that may get into the pan area. The water from the small hose creates a siphon effect at the hose with the funny cuts. It has funny cut outs so it can lay in the bottom of the pan and water can still get sucked in.

It's not supposed to be hooked to anything, it just sits there.

 

[Dhadley]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

There's 3 of those "holes". When the block is cast those are what everything is indexed from.

Describe more about the lack of water from the indicator. When you start the motor how long do you let it run while looking for water?

 

[trobinson017]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

There's 3 of those "holes". When the block is cast those are what everything is indexed from.

Describe more about the lack of water from the indicator. When you start the motor how long do you let it run while looking for water?

Normally when I start the motor the water begins streaming out of the indicator after about 15 seconds or so. I've never timed it but that's my best guess. Last week after taking the boat out for a couple hours I returned to my lift as usual and setup to flush the engine. There's a smaller "pee hole" on the port side of the lower unit, above and forward of the water intakes. There was a steady stream of water coming out it as it normally does. The dealer told me to ensure that stream was good before starting the engine. Everything else looked normal before engine start. When I started the engine I noticed the water barely dripping from the indicator which was not unusual. After about one minute tho the stream never appeared, just the same slow drip, so I shutdown the engine and stopped the flush. The next day I put the boat into the water and started it up. Again, just a slow drip, maybe one drip every 4 seconds, started after about 10 seconds. I let the engine run about 2 minutes and it never improved. The engine seemed to run normal, maybe sputtering a bit more than usual, but there was nothing to make me wonder other than the lack of water from the indicator.

I just checked the indicator fitting again and matched it to the description you gave me, which is dead on accurate. I followed the thinner hose next to the capped off port over to the opposite side of the block where it marries up with a 90 degree fitting. Both ends are secure. The thicker hose is indeed the aspirator which, now that I think about it, was originally in the deepest part of the pan. It put it back there just now.

Should I remove one end of the water feed line to the indicator to see if there's a plug between the 90* fitting and the indicator? I might try that. Is there anything else I can do to determine what the problem is?

Thanks again, Dhadley! Your help is much appreciated.

Tim

 

[trobinson017]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

I wrote: "There's a smaller "pee hole" on the port side of the lower unit, above and forward of the water intakes." My bad. The pee hole is on the starboard side. My brain is already prepped for the Superbowl. :}

 

[Dhadley]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

How's the water pressure? Still the same as always? Since the hot horn didn't come on I suspect it's still normal. It is possible to have a clogged indicator line and still have plenty of water for the powerhead.

You might pull the hose off the palstic fitting in the pan and blow back thru it. that should unclog anything that's in there. All this isn't unusual after running in sandy water or in shallow water (like on the flats -- you can guess how I know that).

 

[trobinson017]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

How's the water pressure? Still the same as always? Since the hot horn didn't come on I suspect it's still normal. It is possible to have a clogged indicator line and still have plenty of water for the powerhead.

You might pull the hose off the palstic fitting in the pan and blow back thru it. that should unclog anything that's in there. All this isn't unusual after running in sandy water or in shallow water (like on the flats -- you can guess how I know that).

Which hose should I disconnect and blow through? The indicator side or the powerhead side? or the aspirator?

The water pressure from the lower unit peehole seems to be the same as it always was. Yesterday I put the boat in the water and started it up with the engine cover off. I lightly squeezed the hose between the powerhead and indicator and I couldn't feel anything. I figured if water were flowing through it I would feel some vibration or movement and maybe a little heat. Nothing. I let the motor run about 2 minutes again, same results are originally reported.

Let me know about which hose and end to blow into and I'll do that asap.

Thanks!!!

Tim

 

[Dhadley]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

Pull off the smaller of the hoses at the plastic fitting in the pan. The one that goes to the 90* elbow in the block. Then blow back towards the powerhead.

By water pressure I mean on the gauge. If it's the same as it's always been then I suspect the overboard line is simply plugged.

 

[trobinson017]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

Pull off the smaller of the hoses at the plastic fitting in the pan. The one that goes to the 90* elbow in the block. Then blow back towards the powerhead.

By water pressure I mean on the gauge. If it's the same as it's always been then I suspect the overboard line is simply plugged.

Hmmmm....I don't believe I have a water pressure gauge. I'll double-check tho when I do the hose thing.

tim

 

[trobinson017]

FIXED!: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

FIXED!: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

Thanks much to Dhadley my "pee hole" problem is fixed!! Following your instructions I removed the smaller tube from the overboard indicator and blew backwards. I detected no resistance. So I left the hose off and hung it outside the pan and started the engine. Water began streaming out after about 10 seconds. I put the hose back onto the indicator and restarted. No water stream! So I then removed the hose again and using a large straightened paperclip poked into the indicator port where the hose goes. I felt something about 1/2" in and kept poking. Suddenly, the resistance went away and some black sludgy stuff came out the indicator. I poked around some more then put the host back on, started the engine and after about 20 seconds, voila! Water!!! I stopped/restarted the engine a couple times to be sure all the crud washed out. I think now I'll quit work early today and go for a spin to celebrate!!!

Thanks again, Dhadley! Your patience and knowledgeable advice saved me some major dough I'm sure. And it has made me a more knowledgeable boat owner too! That's priceless.

Tim

 

[Dhadley]

Re: 1999 Johnson 130 OceanPro pee hole hose disconnect

Glad to hear it was that simple! Thanks for the follow thru.