1999 Johnson 250hp running question??

adm1476

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I have a 1999 Johnson 250hp outboard. The motor runs excellent for the most part. However at a little above idle, about 2500 to 3000rpm's the engine shakes. I can't say it is a skip or misfire but I feel the boat vibrating. At idle it is smooth and anything over 3000 rpm's it is smooth. It makes good power, it pushes my 23ft hydrasport almost 50mph at about 5800 rpm's on flat seas. It has a 4 blade prop on it. Any suggestions??? Could it be plugs? I run pre mix fuel and I tend to mix it a little rich. My thought is oil is cheap, pistons are not! lol
 

ondarvr

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Is this a new issue, did it do it prior to disconnecting the oil injection?

And adding more oil doesn't help.
 

adm1476

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No it has done it for as long as I have had it, but I have not had it since new. Why would you say adding more oil doesn"t help? If the mixture is more rich with oil therefore there is more lubrication.I'm not talking a ton more oil, just a little. If it didn't help then why do you have to run double oil on break in?
 

rjcamel2355

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Have you changed the plugs recently? If not, I would start there. A little extra oil won't "hurt", but I'm not saying to dump another quart in a 6 gallon can. Usually over mixing oil will tend to foul plugs quicker/more often. Also, I'm not sure of what engine/model/ any of that you have going on. I know on my 200 Yamaha (which I am sure is completely different) At idle it is smooth, when you start to give it throttle, up until 1800-2000rpms it will shake quite noticeably, but that is due to shutting two cylinders down at low rpms. Again, I'm not saying that is what you have going on, but I know some engines around that time frame went that direction.


Plugs
If you haven't checked compression in awhile, do it, just to say you did.
just my .02 if it's even worth that.
 

ondarvr

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The manufactures try to find the correct balance of lubrication and carbon build-up in the motor from the unburnt lubricants, extra oil can cause carbon build up that can destroy the motor, it may also create more smoke and running issues. I'm not saying that's your problem, only that manufactures have decades of experience and have a much better understanding of what the oil ratio should be for recreational use than the typical boat owner. For high performance and racing applications sometimes higher ratios are recommended, but these motors tend to be torn down and cleaned far more often, so they can get away with it.

Break-in is a totally different application and is short term.

Back to the question.

Some motors have an RPM range where they don't run as smooth, frequently it's where the motor transitions from low speed circuits in the carb to mid-range or high speed circuits, not much you can do about it. With some work you can sometimes fine tune the jetting to help eliminate it, but you don't always get the desired results, and it takes a while to do.

The place to start is to check the compression, clean and adjust the carbs to ensure they?re working correctly, check the plugs, check for electrical/timing issues.
 

adm1476

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I don't get too silly on the overmixing. When I fuel up my boat I mix it 5 gallons at a time. When I do I mix oil for 6 gal. The boat holds 105 gallons of fuel. I will try changing the plugs first, since I have never replaced them. I don't want to screw with the carbs since it is running excellent at all other rpm ranges. Thanks for the help. I will let you know if that helps.
 
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