2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

[ob1jeeper]

Anyone out there with model year 2000, 225 "Ficht's" experiences to share? good or Bad? Am looking at a used motor for sale, and am curious what (if anything) I should be "aware" of, or looking for ?

 

[Fly Rod]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

I'm no mechanic, but I have had a little exsperience with the 2000 225 ficht and did learn alot about them through alot of reading.<br /> I owned a 2000 ficht and blew the oringinal with less then 250hrs. Replaced with a brand new power head and blew that with less then 30hrs. Bombardier replaced that power head and I recently traded it for a 2003 ficht with a full 3year warranty. I think Bombardier is on the right track now and only time will tell.<br /> From my research the 1999-2000 are "garrrrbageee." There is always that chance that you may get a good one <br /> Go to www.yahoo.com In the search frame type in<br />"'problems with ficht outboard motors". Read the articles.<br /> Do you have a warranty with this motor?<br /> you can't get an extended warranty ubless you have 2-3months left on oringnal warranty. And if they say that you do "Get it in writing".<br /> A good old friend "82years young" says Always buy and use the first half and sell the second half. <br /> Go to page 2 "new99 ficht." Page 5 bombardier/jonnyrude in this iboat forum<br /> Good luck.<br /> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL!!!!

 

[denniz]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

Excellent advise flyrod, Id shy away... EXCUSE ME, RUN LIKE HELL from it personaly. Ive seen to many good people with a bad OMC ficht.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

The 2000 and later FICHTS are the 2nd generation series, called the FICHT Ram and they are good motors. They have a more powerful computer, better fuel and oil systems, and smoother running in the mid range. There is also an exhaust back pressure sensor that fine tunes the mixture, and it has to be cleaned and checked every 100 hours.<br /><br />Have a FICHT trained tech check out the motor completely for you and give you a printout from the computer diagnostics. Most FICHT problems were from untrained people setting them up wrong. Make sure it is propped to turn close to 6000 rpm with a normal load and full fuel.

 

[JB]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

I strongly agree with Flyrod and with Seahorse EXCEPT that the 2001 was the first Bombardier built Ficht Ram year.<br /><br />The 2000 was the last of the bad years.

 

[MIKE F]

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I thought/believe 2002 was the first year Bombardier produced Johnson & Evinrude. I think 2001's were still OMC.

 

[radsrh]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

Only one thing to add, If it is a OMC ficht motor Bombardier will not cover any warranty clam on the motor.

 

[MIKE F]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

If you're buying a left over 2000 or 2001 OMC, Bombardier will give you a 1 yr warranty.

 

[radsrh]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

I would make sure that it is a 2000 motor and get the warranty in writing. A dealership here received a 1999 150 Rude in a creat marked 2002, when they contacted Bombardier they said they would only exchange it if the creat was not opened (how do you think they found out it was a 99) and they would provide no warranty.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

JB,<br /><br />Bombardier started FICHT (and Johnson) production with the 2002 models. They will warranty new and existing 2000 and 2001 FICHT motors built by the former OMC for the regular 2 year warranty period. Carburetor Johnsons of 2000 and 2001 have 1 year warranty. For 2002 motors, Evinrude FICHTS have a full 3 year coverage, as well as the Johnson 4 strokes. The carbed motors have 2 years.<br /><br />These are full coverage warranties, not the declining coverage warranties like some other motors have after the first year.

 

[Fly Rod]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

If anybody is interested in touring the new Bombardier plant go to www.maxrules.com Click on evinrude/johnson scribe downto Tour the new bombardier evinrude/johnson

 

[ob1jeeper]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

To all... Thanx for all the feedback, info., and good advise.<br /><br />It appears there is some confusion, or at least some differences of opinion, on whether the 2000 is actually a "ficht". I am no expert by any stretch, only know what the ad stated, thus my questions.<br /><br />Judging from the ad (from a dealer in Florida), the price is right, and there is 8 months left on the warranty, but like some of you've said, I'll be sure to get that in writing, before any $$ changes hands...<br /><br />Thanx Again...

 

[MIKE F]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

There's no confusion, on whether it's a Ficht or not, the confusion seems to be on who made it. Bombardier did not start producing Johnsons or Evinrudes til 2002. Anything before that was an OMC built engine. Many people swear by their 2001's and 2002's, but they did have a number of problems. I'm repowering my boat now and have looked at left over 2001 and 2002 Johnsons and Evinrudes. I just don't feel that lucky to take a chance on them. Sure they'll have a warranty but that's not going to help you if you break down out on the ocean with a storm bearing down on you.

 

[Fly Rod]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

I agree with MIKEF there is no confusion The 2000 is a Ficht RaMMMM I just walked out into 6" of snow to make sure. And it is made by omc. My old one is still on the boat and my new 2003Ficht RAMMMM will be installed at the end of March so that I don't lose 6 months of my warranty sitting in my yard covered in snow.<br />I hope that you took your "8" month warranty into consideration if you live where your boat may be laid up till Spring. Your warranty starts when the motor is installed.<br />I like to take this time to thank everyone who has contributed their TIME & IMPUT into this outboard motor forum I've learned alot from you guys <br />HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!<br />www.capeannfishingcharters.com

 

[ob1jeeper]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

At least all of this discussion was educational, and will make me a better informed buyer for my next purchase attempt. The dealer who had advertised this motor has decided to not honor my winning ebay bid.<br /><br />I recieved a congratulatory e-mail from the dealer, and went to the bank to get the money order. Got home (with money order in hand) to find a message from someone else at the dealership, so I called him back. This character tried to convince me that "an assistant mis-listed it on ebay, and forgot to put a proper reserve price on it", so the price if I still want it is $3500 more !!!<br /><br />(Seems there are more sharks in some dealerships, than in the water, or with the "omc-fichts"!)<br /><br />Thanx anyway for all the help and education on "fichts"...

 

[radsrh]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

I would make sure and contact E-Bay with a complaint about this company, if they made the error and you had the winning bid they should honor it and sell you the motor they broke a contract with you and should have to make it right.

 

[radsrh]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

I just look at a bid page on E-Bay and it says buy or place a bid only if you are serious about the item. If you are the winning bidder, you will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller. Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item.

 

[Jighead]

Re: 2000 - 225 "Ficht" Questions...

HEY GUYS, Im going to a boat show this weekend to see if I can find a dealer that will take my NEW 99 FICHT in on trade. I contacted a local Evinrude dealer and was told that they would not accept the 99 on trade. Imagine that, a brand new engine!!!! Any of you dealers out there listening!!! If anyone is thinking about buying one of these motors, please beware.

 

[ob1jeeper]

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radshr... Thanx for the moral support. I could not agree more with what ebay states as the "rules of engagement", which they try to make sound like a legally binding contract. However, the dealer in question does not agree, and thus far, ebay has only offered condolences on my having a bad experience "while they investigate"... Ebays last contact indicated they were supposed to take 36 hours to do an investigation, then give me thier response. (That was 4 days ago...) Seems fairly apparent they are not even remotely as serious about protecting their buyers, as they are the sellers... I suppose that only stands to reason, as only the sellers pay any fees to ebay...<br /><br />jighead... I am TRULY sorry to hear about your issues. Sounds like you too have found one of the "Bottom-feeding Scum-Bag Shark Dealers", like the one I'm having issues with. I'd suggest you try to find another dealer to work with. Perhaps someone out there can suggest a GOOD RESPONSIBLE dealer for jighead ??

 

[93bronco]

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yea i would say that the dealer either made the honest mistake or realized by the number of bidders if they had more time they couldve gotten more. even if you did win the complaint i am sure you wouldnt get what you bid on. you would have to take them to court for a monetary award. didnt mean to get away from subject matter. sorry