sean.deangelis
Seaman Apprentice
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So I'll preface this with: This is a duplicate post to another I put on my favorite Four Winns forum but I'm trying to gather information so excuse the redundancy. I was also torn as to weather I needed to split this up into the Engine Topic sub-forum and this one but hoping I can kill 2 birds with one stone and the mods will allow it.
So ended up selling my 99 210 last spring after we moved from Atlanta to Fort Worth. About mid way through September when I realized North Texas has a boating season well into late October I started searching again. I was primarily looking at Sea Ray Signature 210-240 and a few sparse Baja Islanders until I came across an 04 Horizon 210 that peaked my curiosity. Reasons I was looking at other brands/models:
1 - I want to retrofit a selectable through hull exhaust (prefer rear exit to side exit). Before you torch me just save it. I'm a hillbilly and I want it so just save yourself all the typing. In any case for the 99 H210 this was a nearly impossible feat. It could have been done side exit but would not have been a sano install AT ALL. The Sea Ray and the Baja would be easy.
2 - The ride in the FW H210 was not good with 3 grown adults or fewer people and fairly light chop. The 99 H210 was a very cool hull design and I loved that it had no wood in the hull (google the VEC hull design if you're unfamiliar). I didn't install trim tabs but seriously, OE the ride was not very good other than in very smooth conditions (read: max 1ft wind chop).
So here are my questions:
1 - I can't find a good picture of the engine compartment/under engine hatch area to eyeball selectable exhaust routing. I'm sure it'll still need to be side exit because the steering ram looked to be in the same place on the transom from the one picture I was able to find. But the design of the rear upholstery supports and engine cover supports looked like they might be more accommodating than the 99. Anyone have and willing to send me a clear pic or two of an 04 H210 or very similar year?
2 - Anyone want to weigh in on the ride of the 2004 or similar year H210? Yes I understand this is very subjective but here is a broad scale "metric" we can use: If you're out just by yourself cruising around and there is a steady 15-25mph wind on your inland lake. The waves in the more open areas are probably 18-24 inches crest-to-trough with tiny, wind-swept white caps at the top. Going back into the wind are the fillings getting rattled out of your head at 3000RPM/25MPH or is your soda staying carbonated and in it's can?
Again, I know several of you are just going to want to torch my post with ad nauseam "anti-thru hull" rhetoric and posts about how poor my view of the 1999 H210's ride was. But please, I'm only looking for answers to the aforementioned questions.
Thanks in advance
-Sean DeAngelis
So ended up selling my 99 210 last spring after we moved from Atlanta to Fort Worth. About mid way through September when I realized North Texas has a boating season well into late October I started searching again. I was primarily looking at Sea Ray Signature 210-240 and a few sparse Baja Islanders until I came across an 04 Horizon 210 that peaked my curiosity. Reasons I was looking at other brands/models:
1 - I want to retrofit a selectable through hull exhaust (prefer rear exit to side exit). Before you torch me just save it. I'm a hillbilly and I want it so just save yourself all the typing. In any case for the 99 H210 this was a nearly impossible feat. It could have been done side exit but would not have been a sano install AT ALL. The Sea Ray and the Baja would be easy.
2 - The ride in the FW H210 was not good with 3 grown adults or fewer people and fairly light chop. The 99 H210 was a very cool hull design and I loved that it had no wood in the hull (google the VEC hull design if you're unfamiliar). I didn't install trim tabs but seriously, OE the ride was not very good other than in very smooth conditions (read: max 1ft wind chop).
So here are my questions:
1 - I can't find a good picture of the engine compartment/under engine hatch area to eyeball selectable exhaust routing. I'm sure it'll still need to be side exit because the steering ram looked to be in the same place on the transom from the one picture I was able to find. But the design of the rear upholstery supports and engine cover supports looked like they might be more accommodating than the 99. Anyone have and willing to send me a clear pic or two of an 04 H210 or very similar year?
2 - Anyone want to weigh in on the ride of the 2004 or similar year H210? Yes I understand this is very subjective but here is a broad scale "metric" we can use: If you're out just by yourself cruising around and there is a steady 15-25mph wind on your inland lake. The waves in the more open areas are probably 18-24 inches crest-to-trough with tiny, wind-swept white caps at the top. Going back into the wind are the fillings getting rattled out of your head at 3000RPM/25MPH or is your soda staying carbonated and in it's can?
Again, I know several of you are just going to want to torch my post with ad nauseam "anti-thru hull" rhetoric and posts about how poor my view of the 1999 H210's ride was. But please, I'm only looking for answers to the aforementioned questions.
Thanks in advance
-Sean DeAngelis
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but if you want side exhaust go for it , personally I love the exhaust at water level right out the back but to each his own