2018 DF140A lacking performance

Angler 204FX

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Hi all, I'm a new Suzuki owner and need some help diagnosing what I feel is a problem. My dealer doesn't seem to be much help as they don't think there is anything wrong.

The boat is a 2018 Robalo R200 with a 2018 DF140A. The boat struggles to get on a plane and has no top end. After a few test runs these were my results.-----------> R200 Suzuki DF140A.pdf

This is the same boat with Yamaha engines----------> R200 Yamaha F150XA.pdf R200 Yamaha F115XA.pdf (only comparisons I could find for this exact boat).

The big difference I have found with my boat compared to any other DF140A tests I have read is that my fuel flow rate is 8.5 GPH at WOT compared to 12 GPH +/- for every other DF140A in the world.

I dropped the boat off at the dealer Monday morning and explained the issues to them, suggesting throttle linkage or a restriction in a fuel line. I do not believe this is a prop pitch issue, since it doesn't get out of the hole or have any top end MPH. It is more of a lack of power. Fuel flow is in line with a DF90A, and it feels like power is too.

I stopped by the dealer again this afternoon and was told that the throttle was barely out of adjustment, "not enough to make a difference" were the exact words. The service manager told me the tech took it out and the boat planed in 6 seconds and topped out at 6,300 RPM's @ 9 GPH. They couldn't tell me what speed they achieved, as "RPM is all that matters". According to them there is nothing wrong and the fuel flow rate isn't an issue, because they got it to 6,300 RPM. My guess is they had the motor trimmed high enough to get the prop out of the water.

I'm going back tomorrow morning to put it in the water with the tech from the dealership, but I think I'll be left figuring this out on my own. This is where I could use some help from someone familiar with Suzukis. Is my assumption correct, that I cannot be achieving full power while only burning 8.5 GPH? Can anyone with a DF140A let me know their fuel flow at WOT?

Any help would be appreciated!
 

lakensea

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If the engine runs to 6300RPM under load, than there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. That's a 3000 lb hull - definitely underpowered with the DF140A.
 

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what is the RPM at WOT and what is the MPH at that RPM.
have you looked at your gauges and GPS when running?
also what prop are you running
 

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The big difference I have found with my boat compared to any other DF140A tests I have read is that my fuel flow rate is 8.5 GPH at WOT compared to 12 GPH +/- for every other DF140A in the world.

if this is true (and your fuel flow meter is perfectly calibrated), you dont have enough fuel being burned and turned into power. either your starving the motor of fuel (boat side fuel system restriction) and its running lean or your not running on all cylinders.
 

Angler 204FX

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We put it in the water this morning, I idled out to the channel and as soon as I pushed the throttle forward I could tell a difference. The boat planed in half the time as usual and I was able to achieve 38 MPH @ WOT, 6300 RPM and fuel flow was 11.7 GPH.

The tech that worked on the boat was with me and he swore all he did was make a 1/4 turn adjustment on the throttle linkage. I find it hard to believe that was all it took, but it literally feels like another boat.

Whatever they did I picked up 800 RPM, 7 MPH and fuel flow increased by 3.5-4 GPH. I was hoping to have an obvious issue to point to, but I'll take the win regardless.

The prop is a Solas 3x13.8x19, I have 19% slip at WOT, I haven't run enough since I picked it up today to calculate the performance through the whole range with my new found power. I'll get around to that this weekend.
 
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Angler 204FX

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If the engine runs to 6300RPM under load, than there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. That's a 3000 lb hull - definitely underpowered with the DF140A.
I appreciate the input, but it didn't run 6300 prior to dropping it off at the shop. 5,500 was max at WOT. Now that I'm getting power the DF140A is more than enough engine.
 

99yam40

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I would have told the tech to show me what he adjusted, because I would not believe it either
 

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I appreciate the input, but it didn't run 6300 prior to dropping it off at the shop. 5,500 was max at WOT. Now that I'm getting power the DF140A is more than enough engine.

In your original post you stated that the engine ran to 6300 RPM, and that the shop also attained that RPM. Evidently the information you gave us was incorrect.
 

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Your 11.7 GPH and their 9 GPH at 6300RPM do not match up very well
 

Angler 204FX

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In your original post you stated that the engine ran to 6300 RPM, and that the shop also attained that RPM. Evidently the information you gave us was incorrect.
I stated the tech said he achieved 6300.

The boat is a 2018 Robalo R200 with a 2018 DF140A. The boat struggles to get on a plane and has no top end. After a few test runs these were my results.-----------> R200 Suzuki DF140A.pdf

The 5500 RPM at WOT was in the attached PDF, I can understand you missing that info. I listed the max rpm in a red font but didn't clarify that.
 
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Angler 204FX

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Your 11.7 GPH and their 9 GPH at 6300RPM do not match up very well

No, I'm not sure what was going on there. The 9 GPH still makes me think there was some kind of restriction if he was correct. It is definitely burning 11.7 now. I'll run it some more this weekend and hope performance continues.
 

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The fuel restriction was in accordance with less carb opening up and less time advance synch which were corrected adjusting throttle linkage nut. RPM is all, max speed is secondary and has a limit.

Runniung as loaded at middle wot rpm = X max speed.
Running as loaded at max wot rpm = -X max speed.

Middle wot rpm range achieves max top end speed wile sacrificing top hole shot,

Max wot rpm range achieves top hole shot while sacrificing top end speed.

As can't possibly have both at same time, you decide whichever suits your boating needs best.

If OB is now running top at max wor rpm range will remain same. It's a shame that dealers are not checking, adjusting if needed the OB's working parameters when out of the box prior selling them to avoid uncomfy situations for buyers. Seller's policy usually is : Everything is fine..

Happy Boating
 
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