25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

[RedefiningFate]

Hello all!

I am new to this forum and want to thank you for having it here. I purchased (for $20) on Saturday a 1957 Goodyear Sea Bee 25hp, model number 2DE14G(225-3617). The motor turns over and fires real well. Compression checks out and everything. Was wondering if this motor possibly had an alternator since it has electronic ignition. Also do you know of a good part supplier? I found the Ken Cook Company manual for it, but it is quite expensive (I'm poor at the moment). Any other advise would be great thanks!

J.T.

 

[JB]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

1957 seems very old for electronic ignition, JT. Even primitive transistor ignition was leading edge at that time. Maybe they meant battery (Kettering) ignition.

If it is electric start it may have charging coils on the stator, but not a sure thing. I had a 30hp Scott from that period that had electric start but no charging coils.

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Where would I look for these charging coils? When we tested the motor we just hooked it up to the battery and turned the key and it worked. The motor was originally hooked up to a ford cylinoid from the key to the power cable.

 

[CATransplant]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Under the flywheel. However, if you have it running, there should be a voltage exceeding 12 v. if there's some sort of charger.

As far as electronic ignition goes, I doubt it. Someone may have replaced the points with solid state module, but there was no electronic ignition that I know of from that period.

 

[steelespike]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

It won't have a charging coil.I believe the model should be 22DE14
E for electric start.If it had a charging circuit it would probably be a seperate generator assembly with a remote box for the regulator.
A charger isn't necessary as the motor only requires the battery for starting.
You can do many many starts before recharging.We used to go 2 or 3 weeks of starting and running lights without recharging with just an average
automotive type battery.It is better to charge regularly once a wqeek or so
but not necessary unless there is really heavy starting or running light use.
as you may know the motor was built by the Gale devision of OMC.
The Evinrude/Johnson manuals of about the same year will serve well for you.
My older after market manual has the Gale 25 and Evinrude/Johnson 25 & 28 in the same section.55-64.
I got it off ebay about $20 including shipping.
You may find a manual at the library.
Tune up specs J6C Champion plug set at .030,points set at .020,Fuel mix is 24:1 use TCW3 rated oil.The Good Year uses a Friction piston pin bearing
stick with the 24:1 ratio.It should use 18-3006 impeller.Available right here at iboats.
You should change if you don't know the age/condition of your impeller.

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

I thought I had struck gold with there being an alternator...that would have been really cool. Thanks for the info on it. This is a winter project to restore the motor back...Where would one find gaskets and replacement maintenance items for the Sea Bee or would the Evinrude/Johnson 25's work?

 

[steelespike]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

I believe the GoodYear is a E/J clone though parts may not cross directly by year.But should be easy to figure out.

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Ok cool...thanks...I am sure I will have more questions...

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Does anyone know what type of carburator it has such as model number that these typically came with?

 

[steelespike]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Does anyone know what type of carburator it has such as model number that these typically came with?

These motors have OMC carbs E/J kits are available at well established dealers, here at iboats,NAPA auto parts among others.Some NAPA branches don't know about their 600 page Marine Products catalog.

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Would a johnson master manual from 1922-1966 possibly be a good one to go through for my motor since mine is a 1957?

 

[F_R]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Yes. Your motor is the same thing as a 25-30hp Johnson, except for the hood and a few minor details.

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

I started to disassemble the motor lastnight. I have the manual on order and it should be delivered shortly. When rebuilding the motor what key things should I look at replacing? Right now I can tell that one of the coils needs replaced it was fried and the other one looked like it had already been replaced. The fried coil was so bad that it looked cracked and worn through.

The motor runs well (haven't had it idling yet) so I am not sure if I should replace gaskets, float, points, or anything else unless it actually needs to be done. What do you suggest I do first?

Thanks,

J.T.

 

[F_R]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Get the ignition working and replace the water pump impeller. Then try it out to see how it runs. You might get lucky. Those coils are always bad in those old OMCs

Make sure you install the coils flush even with the machined edges on the mounting posts. Otherwise they may rub on the flywheel. See the heat marks from rubbing in the picture?

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Awesome. Would you recommend doing any sort of Carb kit or just let er run first and worry about it later if need be? If I were to test it in the garage I would need a big bucket of water right? I wouldn't want to try it dry right? It's not ready to go on the boat yet some of the wires are pretty banged up and are going to get replaced.

 

[F_R]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Carb may need cleaning and a kit, I am just suggesting taking it one step at a time. Yes it needs to be in the water deep enough to submerge the water pump. It will smoke you out of that garage in a heartbeat. Gasp, gasp.

 

[cmiddl01]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

I have found this place that have new and used parts for older outboards. the used parts you have to call for but the new parts are listed and can be ordered through the website i have used them for my gale and am very happy with the help they have gave me.

http://www.laingsoutboards.com/

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Hello again,

I ran into another snag. I found the coil and impeller, however I do not have a fuel line. Does anyone know a p/n or what type of fuel line I need. Could someone show me where and what line to get for this if you have a chance.

Thanks,

J.T.

 

[F_R]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

You mean the tank hose assembly? That's easy. It uses the same thing as newer model Johnson and Evinrude motors. Wal-Mart has them. And tanks if you need that too.

 

[RedefiningFate]

Re: 25 HP Goodyear Sea Bee

Really! Just your generic hose and tank assembly? Thanks for all your help.

Edit: I was looking at my tank and it is a dual hose tank. Does Walmart still sell those? I am going to look tonight, but want to double-check if it is worth my time.

J.T.