4,000 stripers wasted

[bassman284]

Apparently a trawler off the NC coast "accidentally" netted 3-4 thousand stripers, kept the 50 that he was allowed and dumped the rest.

http://cfrgnc.blogspot.com/2011/01/...ers-and.html?gclid=CMmtyvbD26gCFQnrKgodhUT9Cw

 

[hostage]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

I must be tired, I thought you said "strippers".

 

[JB]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

I wonder what else the blogger would have the captain do, and what change in the law would prevent another "accident"??

Accidents are usually premeditated carelessness, but that does not justify hysterical gossip mongering and pseudo-scientific math gymnastics where "between 3 to 4 thousand" (whatever the heck that means) immature fish suddenly becomes 4,000 wasted fish of mature weight.

If it was, in fact between 3 and 4 thousand fish it was not 4 thousand, and if the fish were, in fact, not mature it was not 80,000 pounds of fish. Such exaggeration is typical political gossip and lies.

Keep in mind that the blog has no credibility beyond a political soap box.

 

[Cofe]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

My consensus exactly JB. Thanks for typing that out...

 

[aspeck]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

Good response, JB ... my feelings also.

 

[dingbat]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

I wonder what else the blogger would have the captain do, and what change in the law would prevent another "accident"??

Accidents are usually premeditated carelessness, but that does not justify hysterical gossip mongering and pseudo-scientific math gymnastics where "between 3 to 4 thousand" (whatever the heck that means) immature fish suddenly becomes 4,000 wasted fish of mature weight.

If it was, in fact between 3 and 4 thousand fish it was not 4 thousand, and if the fish were, in fact, not mature it was not 80,000 pounds of fish. Such exaggeration is typical political gossip and lies.

Keep in mind that the blog has no credibility beyond a political soap box.

No credibility? The illegal and irresponsible harvest of Striped Bass in that area is well documented. NC Fisheries thinks this last incidence was serious enough to enact new laws to prevent this type of things from happening in the future.
http://www.wtkr.com/news/wtkr-nc-fishing-bass-jan20-story,0,4788955.story
http://www.fox43tv.com/dpps/news/local/law-to-change-for-catching-striped-bass_3701679

The area the trawlers are working is well known for its stocks of large Striped Bass in the winter. Fisherman from all over the country are drawn to the huge schools of striper that over winter in that area. These are not immature fish. These are very large, mature fish. Many exceed #40-50. The poundage estimates that your calling hysterical gossip mongering and pseudo-scientific math gymnastics could conceivably be double to triple those figures. A large majority of these fish are the large breeders. The effect of removing these 2,000-3,000 fish goes well beyond the poundage.

Unfortunately, the trawling incident is just one of many problems which the fishery faces. These fish are getting pounded up and down their entire range and poaching by both recreational and commercial interests is common place.
http://www.wavy.com/dpp/news/local_news/cg-sites-striped-bass-poachers-off-nc

To put the problem of Striped Bass poaching into perspective, Maryland alone has confiscated over 12 millions pounds in February and another 3.3 millions of poached fish just last week.
http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/news/story.asp?story_id=150

Still think it?s all hysterical gossip mongering and pseudo-scientific math gymnastics?

 

[bassman284]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

Wow. Sorry I brought it up.

 

[lncoop]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

Wow. Sorry I brought it up.

You shouldn't be. Sounds like it's a serious problem. Serious problems don't get solved unless someone brings them up. JB just likes facts, that's all. Can't fault him for that. He'll appreciate the ones that have been provided once he sees them. Personally, I'm just glad we didn't lose 3k-4k strippers like Hostage originally thought.

 

[JB]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

"Still think it?s all hysterical gossip mongering and pseudo-scientific math gymnastics? "

Yup. Lies are lies and the worthiness of an argument is completely cancelled by lies.

Gimme some truth and facts and I will consider them.

 

[dingbat]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

"Still think it?s all hysterical gossip mongering and pseudo-scientific math gymnastics? "

Yup. Lies are lies and the worthiness of an argument is completely cancelled by lies.

Gimme some truth and facts and I will consider them.

Beverly Eaves Perdue, Governor Dee Freeman, Secretary

N.C. Department of Environment and Natural Resources

Release: Immediate Contact: Patricia Smith
Date: Jan. 20, 2011 Phone: (252) 726-7021 or (252) 342-0642

Overloaded Fishing Net Causes Striped Bass Spill

MOREHEAD CITY ? An overloaded fishing net prompted fishermen on a commercial trawler to release thousands of striped bass they caught Saturday off of Bodie Island.

After towing through a school of striped bass, fishermen on the commercial trawler Jamie Lynn found the net was so full it was too heavy to bring onto the boat. In order to retrieve the net, the fishermen had to open it and release the fish, the boat captain said.

The boat captain estimated 3,000 to 4,000 fish were released from the net. Many recreational and commercial fishermen picked up the discarded fish. When Marine Patrol officers arrived on the scene, there were approximately 250 dead fish.

The incident occurred Saturday afternoon.

The N.C. Division of Marine Fisheries confirmed the specifics of the event through an eyewitness account and an interview with the boat captain.
Staff with the division is still investigating the incident but has been unable to confirm reports that commercial trawl fishermen were high-grading. High-grading occurs when a fisherman discards a previously-caught, legal-sized fish in order to keep a larger fish within the daily possession limit. While high-grading is not illegal, it is not an ethical fishing practice and the division does not condone it.

For this reason, the division plans to implement management measures designed to limit discard mortality when it reopens the striped bass trawl fishery for three days beginning Monday.

The division will replace the current 50-fish-per-day commercial trip limit, which has been in place for 15 years, with a 2,000-pound-per-day trip limit. To avoid the need to throw back dead fish, commercial fishermen will be allowed to transfer trip limits to other fishing vessels that hold a striped bass ocean fishing permit for the commercial trawl fishery. The transfers must be made in the ocean.

The new regulations will be implemented by a proclamation that will be released Friday.

 

[fishrdan]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

Those were some big stripers, easily 20# adults as I see it... I don't care if it was 50, 500, 1000 or 4000, that was a complete waste.

 

[fireman57]

Re: 4,000 stripers wasted

I'm with JB. the original post purports that these 3-4 thousand fish were killed. the last post says that only 250 were lost. I am not one to condone the wasting of resources but the people who blow these things out of proportion should be accountable for their actions. I can say anything about anything I want on a blog with no consequences because it is "freedom of the press". Let me say something bad about you and I get sued. If you can't dazzle them with the fact then baffle them with BS.