4.3L: 1990 marine block to 1992 automotive block

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So, I have a few questions and was curious to see what people have for advice.

the boat is a 1990 Bayliner Capri 20.5'.... living where I do we don't take the boat out a whole lot (it probably has seen 30-40 hours of engine running time in 3 summers).... in any event, the engine developed a rod knock and has 2 low compression cylinders.... thought about rebuilding but the price to rebuild was higher than I really wanted to pay.

Locally someone was selling a 10K original mile 1992 4.3L complete from a firebird... apparently he bought it 10 years ago with intent to install into an old Astro Van, but things happened and it sat around on a stand (no concerns about it being out.. I've already looked at all of that). Also, my old engine is standard rotation, so I'm not concerned. Plan to pick up a cam from Summit as well.... anyways, onto the questions

1)... question is on the marine vs. automotive HG.... I've heard that the marine applications have a different head gasket, and the only real reason I've seen why is because of the freshwater cooling system. My boat doesn't have a system that pushes lake water through the engine... rather it has a coolant holding tank that flows through the manifolds and the block, which the coolant tank has a water to water cooler built in, and the freshwater cools the coolant tank.... so, my question would be -- since the temps of the engine are around the same as a standard automotive 4.3, is there any reason to use a marine head gasket?

2)... electric fuel pumps.... I've seen some debate on here but nothing too helpful other than some members saying to "buy the right pump".... only problem is... original is mechanical and the new engine would require an electric pump. I can easily wire it in and the boat already has a water separator on it.... someone else had made the mention of the marine ones being special... makes me wonder why... if there is some sort of flame-resistant coating (etc) on them just in case.... If there's nothing special other than having the label "marine" on it, then I'm not too concerned.

(FYI, I've worked in a couple parts stores for a few years and still have a friend at an automotive parts store... I'm well versed in many of the differences between automotive and marine stuff and many times lack-there-of).
 

bigskiohio

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Re: 4.3L: 1990 marine block to 1992 automotive block

some on here will tell you it wont work as the cam will be wrong. But basicly
they should interchange, i would change the head gasket but you could probably get away with for a season maybe two. Some of the backyard mechs will say go for it. Just change all the marine parts over. core plugs? Marine gaskets wont rust out.
 

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Re: 4.3L: 1990 marine block to 1992 automotive block

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,...

#1 pertains to standard steel Shim gaskets,... They're few,+ far between nowadays,...
Composite gaskets have Cured that ole boater's/ mechanic's tale...

#2,... A Carter industrial fuelpump will work just Fine...
Just make sure you wire it thru an oil pressure Switch....
 
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Re: 4.3L: 1990 marine block to 1992 automotive block

Ayuh,... Welcome Aboard,...

#1 pertains to standard steel Shim gaskets,... They're few,+ far between nowadays,...
Composite gaskets have Cured that ole boater's/ mechanic's tale...

#2,... A Carter industrial fuelpump will work just Fine...
Just make sure you wire it thru an oil pressure Switch....

Thanks.... for #1 I wasn't too concerned.... especially since I figured my freshwater system was up to par considering the coolant that came out was more green than I've seen when new coolant is in a car for less than a minute.....

For #2... I figured that there is going to have to be some sort of safety precaution.... the only problem I see by using an oil pressure switch is that it may not be failsafe.... in the cars I have that I use aftermarket EMS systems (Megasquirt) it uses lack of an ignition signal to kick the pump off. I think if I can figure this out in the "thunderbolt" ignition then it may be more safe... oil pressure in an engine can stay up there for a good 5-10 seconds after an engine has shut off.... ignition events stop when the engine stops.

Either way, thanks for the info.

As for the cam... somewhere I found the lift & duration of a marine mercruiser 4.3 cam and plan to find a new "performance" automotive cam of the same size or maybe a tad larger :D
 
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