50 TLDI, will not start, one cilinder not firing

zoranz

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Hi, newbie on this forum, I have 50TLDI, 2008, worked like a charm until this summer.

I had problem on my 10 day trip with when the engine will with no apparent reason drop the RPM for a second and then come back. This was repeated every 10-30 minutes regardless of RPM (happened on WOT as well as on cruising speed around 2400 RPM). I changed the spark plugs and it kind of worked happier but the issue was still there. Last Thursday when I sail out it started loosing power if I am under 2000 rpm (RPM will go at least 400 up and down all the time) but sort of hold it if I am over 2000. It finally decided not to start next day on my trip home. After many attempts I manage to start it. It was running rough and would not go over 2000 RPM even on WOT. All the time I could smell gasoline in the exhaust. I made it to the marina and when I parked the boat on the trailer once I tilted engine down (I always leave it in the upright position) a black water, mixed with gasoline and oil came out of the exhaust in the propeller.
This morning I pulled spark plugs out and one on the lowest cylinder was showing that this cylinder was not firing at all (plug was black, oily and wet with some deposit on it). I cleaned the spark plugs put them back, try to start it but without success. It makes a sound as it is almost starting but will not. I had no more time today to look at it but I would like to give it another attempt tomorrow. Any ideas what should I look for?

Thank you all
 

pvanv

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Re: 50 TLDI, will not start, one cilinder not firing

I assume you have a 50B, right? Year is unimportant, but exact model is critical. You may still be in the 3+1 year warranty, so consult your local dealer. You can loacte dealers at http://www.tohatsu.com/dealersearch/index.html. Sounds like an ignition issue (which would mean to check the alyernator and ignition coils, as well as the spark plug and cable), but could be a number of things, including a fuel injector that has a case of the dribbles. The average backyard mechanic cannot effectively service any DFI engine without the Factory service manual, so if you are no longer in warranty, and want to tackle this yourself, start by getting the Factory service manual for the MD50B, part number 003-21050-2, for $27.58. Then check for any error codes saved in the ECU, and reset the TPS. The TLDI motors have built-in diagnostics that can help guide you in diagnosing the problem.
 

zoranz

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Re: 50 TLDI, will not start, one cilinder not firing

My user manual say it is for TLDI 50B2. Unfortunately it looks like I will have to take a boat to the dealer as my warranty expired (it is over 3 years since I have it) and it appears that I have a problem I cannot solve by muself. I almost miss my old carburated Nissan 30 that I could fix any time it cough.
Maybe dealer will have the manual on hand and I will give it second apttempt armed with more than just reading glasses and little puch with the tools that came with the motor.

Zoran
 

TOHATSU GURU

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Re: 50 TLDI, will not start, one cilinder not firing

Four year warranty on the ignition system.
 
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