62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

brnschoneck

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(EDIT removed email address) i am thinking about getting this i cant find thread i started on it so here goes again !!!! if i can get him low enough dont know much about this company wantedsome opinions ???
Also what is the most you would give for this ???
http://raleigh.craigslist.org/boa/3699232709.html
 
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Don S

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

That was the sellers email address, not a link to the boat.
 

brnschoneck

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

hmmm idk y that is i copied and pasted it from cl sorry ??? Problem corrected so so sorry I am not a computer genuis and am still learning .....
 

64osby

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

It is not tin. Says fiberglass right in the ad.
 

joelybob

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

check transom looks to me that it might have a bow in it. but hard to tell from picture.
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

Is it a tinnie (aluminum)? NO, it is fiberglass.

If I really needed a major and expensive project, and IF the floor and transom were solid with no internal rot, the most I would pay is $200.

Looks like it has been sitting, unprotected for 20 years or more. Most likely rot in the hull. Motor, if it runs, may be worth $200. If the motor doesn't run, now, it is worthless IMO.
Trailer needs plenty of work and money. Interior, seats, wiring, steering, all need attention.


That seller sure thinks he has something special.




Here:

Nice hull, good trailer, running motor, needs a couple seats and a starter solenoid. $300

15' Fish-N-Ski 40 H.P. Evinrude Outboard Motor Highlander Trailer T1011BN in Powerboats & Motorboats | eBay Motors
 

JimS123

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

Boy that seller could sell somepone a bridge for sure.

MFGs are at the bottom of the quality list, thery are not the best money could buy and they sink real easy. As far as rotten innards go, probably more of them rotten than even Bayliners!

From the pics I wouldn't take it for free.
 

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Ya far's build quality went I'm surprized any still exist? Bleve MFG stood for "Manufactured Fiber Glass" inc. Though I've heard of them referred to as MF'n Garbage. Never owned one so's cain't say fer sure ...

Yeah $1000 bucks for that gem is a lil pricey ...?
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

If I really needed a major and expensive project, and IF the floor and transom were solid with no internal rot, the most I would pay is $200.

Looks like it has been sitting, unprotected for 20 years or more. Most likely rot in the hull. Motor, if it runs, may be worth $200. If the motor doesn't run, now, it is worthless IMO.
Trailer needs plenty of work and money. Interior, seats, wiring, steering, all need attention.


That seller sure thinks he has something special.

Yup. There's 'used' and there's 'used up'. This rig is used up.
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

"Dad's" old boat looks like it has big ole' subwoofers wired in under the bow :)

I think that Johnson is electric shift ... just to toss another log on the fire ;)
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

'Lectric shift was my first thought when I saw that motor pic. Eee, was my second thought ... Well that, and the boat looks really rough.

re The "subs". Hey mebbe Dad liked to rock out!?
 

brnschoneck

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

lol yes sirrr thanks a lot !!! I thought sooo...I wasnt familiar with the mfg duh ???? I thought the johnson was a decent motor not so much as merc but i guess not cuz the electric shift , i take it "mental note " doesnt sound good .I thought he was a little crazy asking 1000 ....i wont waste my time thnks a lot guyssss .....GOD I LOVE THE KNOWLEDGE ON HEAR AS IM LEARNING SOO MUCH WHO NEEDS SCHOOL WHEN U GOT IBOATS !!!!!
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

I certainly wouldn't consider MFG a low end manufacturer, especially during those years.
Unlike other brands they were built with all fiberglass, no wood decks or stringers. Only the transom core was wood.
Some models were built with curved transoms, meaning the transom bows outward, they were built this way much like the wood boats they were meant to mimic.

That said, that one is rough, but chances are the floor and hull are fine. If the transom is solid, it'll have lot of life left in it.
They used both foam and a trapped air means of flotation, most had double bottoms so to speak. The lower bilge is sealed off from the passenger compartment and there's a separate drain plug for the above the floor, as well as one for the lower bilge.

The years to look for are 1962 through 1967, after this point they began to use wooden stringers and floors to reduce costs.
I've owned a dozen or more of these boats and they are one of the only fiberglass boats I'd even consider.
I've redone several which had rotten transom cores with SeaCast, after this repair the boat is 100% wood free. and will last a lifetime.

MFG is still in business, they were the people who molded Corvette bodies for GM, they simply got out of building boats in the 1980's.

As far as the electric shift motor, they can still be serviceable but lower unit parts are hard if not impossible to find. If it runs and sounds OK, and the shifter works, the motor could very well still be OK, but I wouldn't consider it to be an asset to the boat's value.
It would be easy to just hang a newer motor in its place, and a more modern set of controls.
Those boats were also very light, that boat would do fine with a bit less motor but was rated up to something like 100hp.
I believe that model was called an Edinboro. See here for a pic of the original Brochure: http://forums.fiberglassics.com/mfg/mfgb63008.jpg

MFG boats have quite a following, and those like the one in that ad are from the companies best years.
The way I'd see it is like this, the motor, if it runs, would be worth maybe $250, the trailer another $400, and then the rest would be the boat itself. I saw the big speakers in the boat but I don't see any radio or holes cut in the dash, so that makes me think someone just tossed the things in the boat.
I'd look at buying a boat like that much like buying a classic car. They will always need some work, if they didn't I'd be more than a bit suspicious as to why they were for sale.
The biggest thing I see wrong with that boat in the pic is that someone appears to have painted it, it looks like that may have been a red upper hull model and someone painted it blue? I've seen those in white, blue, and on occasion in red. Red is by far the least common with most of them being blue.

I think a lot of what a boat is worth has to do with where you are and what time of the year it is.
I sold my last MFG Edinboro last spring for $750, but it had no seats, no motor, and no trailer and it was in need of a transom rebuild.
I had bought it for its original seats and vintage trailer, and sold what was left. It was for sale for a month before it sold.
I later sold its trailer for $500 with a fresh coat of gray paint after finding one I liked better. Mine had a 60hp, electric shift Evinrude which worked great. That motor was still on one of my boats until last month when I sold it with another boat.
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

Back in the 1950's we had a wooden boat. I remember my father saying that you should never buy a FG boat because they rotted out. Maybe there is irony there....LOL.

Anyway, the first rotten FG boat I ever saw was an MFG. As I recall it was about 1970, because it was the year I bought my new 'Rude Triumph. Another guy bought one at the same time, and as luck would have it he hit a rock and put a hole in the bottom of the boat as he was breaking in his new motor. What has stuck in my mind all these years was seeing that relatively new boat tipped over at an angle in the marina's shop, ready to have the hole patched. Looking inside was the bottom of a rotten floor (deck) with a bunch of stringers that had cancer and were just thin sticks. The marina advised him not to bother fixing it. If it was outside the 62-67 range it sure rotted quickly!
 

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Re: 62 mfg opinions is this a tinnie ???

Those built before 1962 had no actual stringers, they had molded in glass ribs, with a flat wood floor laid overtop with a wood core transom. Those lower hulls were tough, but not as rigid as the third generation hulls. The first MFG boats, 1956-1959 or so, were basically two glass hull pieces assembled to a wood structure. The keel, stringers, and entire rear and upper parts of the boat were still wood.
The third generation, beginning in 1962-63, were all glass hulls with the exception of the transom core. If you cut one apart, the lower hull contains fiberglass stringers made right to the lower/outer hull, and then the floor is bonded right to the top of those and to the sides of the outer hull inside. The top cap of the hull is also bonded right to the lower hull, not screwed or riveted as on most boats.
After 1968, they began using plywood for stringers and wood decks covered lightly in fiberglass, much the same as Starcraft or any other common manufacturer did back then. I was told by someone who worked at MFG back then that the rising cost of oil forced the change in manufacture procedures back then.
I won't own one after 1967, and strongly prefer the 1963-1966 models for various reasons, being color choices, deck style, and weight.
In those years, MFG wasn't the only builder using all glass below deck, Starcraft, Speed Queen, Glaspar, and a few others did the same but those still used plywood for floors. MFG used all fiberglass.

One of the main attractions to MFG is that they're older hulls were dead on copies of the old wood boats, Lyman to be exact. The first hulls were actually molds made from actual Lyman boats.

When it comes to rough water use, they're one of the very best boats to have. Especially if your in a boat much smaller than the water conditions should tolerate. The deep V design up front cuts and deflects water better than any boat I've owned.

I've owned dozens of boats over the years, MFG is by far my favorite fiberglass hull. My second choice would be an older Starcraft, old enough to not have wood stringers.
I cut apart a wrecked 1962/63 Edinboro a few years ago, it had a huge walnut tree nearly cut it in two.
There were two pieces of wood in that boat, one the formed the back panel of the dash board, the other was the transom core. No other wood was in that boat, I cut it up into pieces small enough to fit in several trash cans.
 

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Three words...... PASS ...... Keep Shopping ;)
 

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One of the main attractions to MFG is that they're older hulls were dead on copies of the old wood boats, Lyman to be exact. The first hulls were actually molds made from actual Lyman boats.

When it comes to rough water use, they're one of the very best boats to have. Especially if your in a boat much smaller than the water conditions should tolerate. The deep V design up front cuts and deflects water better than any boat I've owned.

I can attest to that. The Lyman design was built to withstand the rigors of Lake Erie.

I've ridden in an early MFG molded from a Lyman Hull. And I own the same hull model that it was molded from. While the MFG rides very well, there is no substitute for the real thing.

If God had intended man to build boats out of fiberglass, he would have invented fiberglass trees! And the whaletail was invented because they stopped building boats out of wood.

All kidding aside, its nice to see that old craftsmanship is still appreciated by some.
 
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