'68 Glastron 15.5' Closed-Bow

DrgnRebrn

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My question is concerning the deck, bouyancy foam, & striping. I just purchased my first boat this weekend, a 1968 Hydro Swift 15.5' closed-bow shallow-v with a 1971 Mercury 65hp outboard. The engine seems to run very well, the hull appears to be in good shape (other than some seemingly natural cracking in the gelcoat & a few scratches). The seats were severely cracked & torn, so I immediately removed those. The seller had registered it last in April '08 and had it out the entire boating season that year, but he did not renew the registration after 04/09 and consequently let it sit for an entire year. As a result I believe perhaps some small critters have burrowed into the foam under the decking, as the deck was full of dead leaves, twigs, acorns, and small pieces of white styrofoam. During my initial cleanup, I removed perhaps 15 wasp/hornet nests (none active as it's still too cold here in Utah), and I'm sure there are most likely some more up under the closed-bow & bilge area, perhaps even along the sides along the top of the inside "pockets" (I don't know the technical term for any of these things). The decking itself seems to be in fair condition; however when I removed the seats the bolts holding securing them simply pulled out of the wood, and it looked to be somewhat rotted. There is also a "squishy" feel as I walk around the deck, yet I don't feel as if I'm going to fall through. So, after doing some initial online research, I not only found this website, but also discovered that there is most likely going to be a need for me to replace the striping, the foam, and decking before I take this boat out this year. I am a boating newbie, and therefore would be greatly appreciative of any advice, information, tutorials, etc that would help me in this project.

Just to weed-out some of the advice, I have already decided to use marine-grade plywood and I will be coating it with an epoxy on all surfaces to ensure that this new decking will last for several years. I am looking more for technique, perhaps step-by-step guides, video tutorials, website links, or maybe someone who lives in the Salt Lake City, UT area that wouldn't mind mentoring, assisting with a weekend spring project, or recommending a local store or resource for this type of project. Obviously, nobody is made of money, so any cost-saving advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

DrgnRebrn

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Another bit of info, I purchased this boat in response to an add that read "65hp Mercury outboard engine - runs great, comes with free boat & trailer." The selling price was $300 for the whole package. The trailer is in good condition, I am just wondering what, if any, repairs I should perform to the decking, etc.
 

osborn159

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welcome aboard!!!!!
use the search feature type in deck replacment, and read all you can, also with a boat that old you may end up refiting new stringers and transom, heck i proly would just for peice of mind especially if wife and kids are involved in your outings, i know that just expanded your budget some, welcome to owning a boat, if u do opt to go that route all the info you'd ever want is most likely arcived here somewhere, if you cant find it ask, find threads on like style boats to yours and read them, and just to occupy you for a few days read oops-hull extension thread, lots of good info pics, pretty detailed. that should get you started.
 

osborn159

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oh yeah, pics help when presenting ???s about your ? or troubles, if you can post a pic or 2 of your recent aquisition, we like pics
 

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welcome! It sounds as though you got a good deal there. Given that the boat has been sitting for a while, you'll want to make sure that you check the impeller, make sure your gas hasn't taken on water, etc... before you run it for too long. In terms of advice, tutorials, etc, you have definitely come to the right place. There are a lots people on the site that are not only knowledgeable, but also really willing to help.
I would start by posting pictures. You'll have to decide how much time/money you want to sink into this project and go from there. If you are going to do a full resto, then there is no way that you are going to be done in a weekend or two. If you just want to fix it up and you don't have any major structural issues then is could be a lot quicker/cheaper.
 

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Welcome to iBoats!
You have come to the right place. I to just bought a 1962 Lonestar "Flamingo" closed bow but I lucked out and the deck, stingers and transom are solid. I am just doing the interior and cosmetics. However this thread http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=365820&highlight=micks110 has everything you will need to know on how to do what you will need to do. Micks has done a thourough and excellent job of restoring his boat and on a budget. He DID add some extra expense using SeaCast that you do NOT have to use but you can read about that on his site. There are hundreds of guys here just waiting to help you. Pics are always helpful and you can get a FREE website to post them on here. www.photbucket.com or www.picasa.com

Good Luck with your Project
 

DrgnRebrn

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Hah! So I went out to take some pics of my boat, and made a surprising discovery - This is a 1968 Glastron, not a Hydro Swift!
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I can't quite read the model & SN, but I'm pretty sure it says "150 G". My initial search didn't pull up anything on that model number, but I'm hoping perhaps someone here can share some knowledge.

As you can see, the deck needs some work
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That light part in the middle is raised about 1/4"-1/2" from where the seats were, in the dark area to either side.

Transom & Bilge Area
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There she is
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Here's some of the bits 'o foam I was referring to
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This is up under the bow

Mercury 65hp outboard
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I am currently debating on whether I should just rip up the deck to evaluate the condition of the stringers, or whether I should use it as-is for the season & make this a winter restoration project. I'm reading the thread Woodonglass suggested for micks110's rebuild project, and man that has got me inspired to just get into it! I can't stop reading it! I don't know if I'll be able to commit that much money as far as the solid seacast stringers & transom, but who knows?

I am a complete newbie to this, so I would greatly appreciate any & all feedback.

Thanks,

Daric
 
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osborn159

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i think its a total loss and you should just let me come and get it out of your way!!!!:D,
that is certainly worth a resto whether you can swing the seacast type product or use wood. heck the trailer doesnt even look to bad. nice find.
good luck, D
 

ezmobee

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Nice boat and probably a pretty good deal. It will most likely need a complete refit though. I haven't see too many that have been left to the elements for any length of time with still-solid wood components. However, there are plenty of threads on here for guidance! Good luck with your project.

Could you please resize your pictures to 640x480? You can do this right on photobucket with a single click and you won't even have to update anything here.
 

tschmidty

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Definitely a cool looking boat and motor. Really like thos classic lines.

Whether you wait a season or start now, it will most likely need a complete deck/transom/probably stringer refit. But on a smallish boat that is as open as yours is, it probably wouldn't take you but a month or two depending on how handy you are and how much time you have. Heck some of these guys could probably knock that deck and transom out in a weekend (slight exageration, but not much :))
 

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Hi DrgnRebrn

You can't go wrong for what you paid. If you decide not to restore it you could sell the motor and trailer and make triple your money back. If this is your first boat take it out this season and enjoy it because it will be awhile before you get it back in the water. If you start ripping into the boat now without knowing what your missing by having the boat out of commission you may never get it back in the water. (my 2 cents) Just make sure the motor stays on the transom. What ever your time line and budget is you should probably double it. I have a 1968 mark twain 15 foot that I have been working on for a year now. Seacast is expensive and I think unnecessary. Think of it this way, that boat has lasted 40 years with a wood core transom ( O.K maybe it should have been replaced 10 years ago) but you get my point. I am using epoxy resin instead of the polyester resin. Your going to pay through the nose for it but I think its easier to work with and a little less forgiven, what I was looking for, for my first boat. (note I have never used polyester resin so I based this on reading post on this forum). Take allot of pictures, if you decide to ever sell the boat you can prove to the next owner what you did. One other thing---get yourself a wall calendar and pick a date to have the boat in the water by. Each month put on the calendar what you want to accomplish and by what date you want to have it done. It has helped me allot, but I am the kind of person who gets easily distracted.:D

Good luck
 

DrgnRebrn

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ezmobee - Sorry 'bout the pic size. I resized my album pics in photobucket, and will just do this up front from this point forward, thanks for the FYI!

wambs8 - Not sure what you mean by "make sure the motor stays on the transom." Wouldn't I have to remove the motor if I were to replace the transom?

I agree that this will msot likely require a total re-fit. I am just debating on whether I could get a season worth of lake fishing out of it before investing the time & money. I agree with the classic lines, there is something truly original about the '60 series boat models. In my opinion, they have as much appeal to the boating world as the '50 series car models have in the automotive world. They are designs that are unique, original, and innovative for the industry. You can still see concepts in latter-day models, but yet there is nothing like it on the market today.

I am actually helping my brother-in-law restore a 14' aluminum john boat too, here are a few pics from last weekend's work....

Before
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Paint stripper applied....post 15 minutes or so
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Trailer....it's in bad shape, don't know if it's worth it
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Finished with outer hull paint stripping, first application at least
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Everything's rinsed off & awaiting another coat of stripper, or maybe we'll find a sand blaster in town to get down to the metal

Next weekend will be the inside of the boat.
 

CheapboatKev

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Yep..Its that 14 foot tinny that made me post..lol
Glass boats..ehhhhh :D

DONT SANDBLAST THE ALUM BOAT!!!!

There are guys that use baking soda, wont eat the alum up like sand..

And you can keep old paint on tin cans as long as its not chipping and flaking..
Sand down a bit to get adhesion, wipe down with acetone, or vinegar and water..and roll paint on with closed cell foam rollers..
 

DrgnRebrn

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Good advice CheapboatKev, thank you! My brother-in-law got this for free from his father-in-law, after it sat in his backyard for 1 1/2 decades. I'm not meaning to post a project on a non-glass boat. I just thought it was an interesting side note since I guess I'm technically going to have 2 active boat projects... Do you need to put any foam in any part of an aluminum boat? I'm thinking perhaps under each bench seat maybe....?
 

CheapboatKev

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No worries..Its cool that ya have 2 things going on at once..

As far as the foam, I personally wouldn't bother.
If a tinny that small swamps, there isnt enough areas under the seats to really help..All in my opinion.

But since we have that 14 ftr out in the open..lol
What kind is she? There is a TON of us Starcraft tin guys here and lots of other models too, I also just got a 14 ft 1950 sumthing Lonestar
 

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DrgnRebrn, what you have is a classic 1966 Glastron Futura V-150.
 

DrgnRebrn

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Wow, thanks Aqualift! I just did a quick online search & pulled up this flyer/brochure:

http://www.classicglastron.com/66gl-v150-152-154-web.html

I am really liking the blue/white paint design! I think that may be my inspiration for what the finished product should look like.

Now maybe I can start looking on ebay for the owner's manual or any other original documentation, thanks again Aqualift!
 
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Do you need to put any foam in any part of an aluminum boat? I'm thinking perhaps under each bench seat maybe....?

I would, without it the boat goes to the bottom. With it, it may be swamped but it won't sink!
 

Aqualift

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No problem. If you need any additional help, there are some great guys over at classicglastron.com too. The blue and white scheme is nice. It also came in the gold like you have. Have you buffed a small area to see if there is any of that nice color left? Or is it pretty bad? It's hard to tell from your pics. It just looks faded.
 

DrgnRebrn

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The only progress I've made so far is removing the old torn seats, cleaning out a majority of the leaves, twigs, hornet nests, bits of styrofoam, various items of trash, and aquired some swivel seats.
As far as the color goes, there is some kind of clearcoat (maybe this is the gelcoat that some people refer to?) over everything & it has kind of yellowed in some places. This "clearcoat" has some small spiderweb cracks in some places, but you can still see some color under all of that. Should i just use my wax buffer to polish an area up & see?
 
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