75 Force high speed miss

papaw_larry

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  • <br />I have a 1998 model 75 hp Force. Runs fine under 4000 rpm. However, over 4000 rpm has an intermitten miss. At 5250 rpm has constant miss. Changed plugs, replaced what seemed to be a bad coil, replaced stator. Still has same miss. Have any of you had any simular problems? Could it be reed valves or plugged exhaust ports? HELP<br />
 

my new fishmaster

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Re: 75 Force high speed miss

Sounds like the fuel delivery problem, what pitch are you running and what size,materials of the boat.
 

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  • <br />The 75 hp Force motor is on a 22' Smokercraft Pontoon boat. Not sure about the pitch on the prop, but will check. This summer I have had to replace the spark plugs three times. It runs better on new plugs or cleaned plugs, but plugs foul in a short time. Could this have anything to do with the timing? Cruising at 4000 rpm or less it is okay. Would too much fuel cause a miss over 4000 rpm? Any ideas? Thanks for the reply! Still stumped!<br />
 

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Re: 75 Force high speed miss

I am stumped too, stumped. It is usually high speed winding in the stator that causes it to miss at high speed. But seeinz how you replaced that, it leaves fuel delivery or timing advance the areas to go to next. To rule-out fuel delivery as the culprit, next trip out, bring a helper. Have your helper manually pump the primer bulb when the symptom surfaces. If it cures the miss, it is a fuel delivery problem.<br />Check the spark advance linkage for any play. The fact that it runs fine at low RPM indicates the base timing is probably right on,but the linkage may not be tracking it up the range as the throttle is opened up.<br />A timing light and a helper to operate the boat will allow you to adjust the advance linkage once you have removed any possable play in it.<br />All high voltage components can "arc-over" at high RPM, jumping as far as 1/2". Plug wires, plugs themselves, and coil packs will do this.Once they start doing this, they get worse, or more constant, as they build-up a "carbon path" from where they jump across.<br />A run at WOT at night, with the cover off (and your spotter) may reveal visable arcing.<br />But it's a process of elimination for sure.<br />Good luck,and reply with your findings.
 

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Re: 75 Force high speed miss

  • <br />Thanks 12Footer for the info. My next move is to check timing the next time I take it out. One of the shops that has looked at the problem wants to set the timing at top rpm. We would have already tryed but the tilt motor was mounted on the outside and it sprayed water ever where so we could not set it. That has been my weekend project moving this in side to stop the water fall. I had it out for a little while this weekend and the longer I ran it the worse it ran. After it fouls the plugs it won't idle right either. I removed the plugs and the top and bottom were black and the center was pretty much still white. I use NGK plugs. New plugs help for a while but after several cleanings they do not help much. Will let you know what happens with the timing.<br />
 

my new fishmaster

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Re: 75 Force high speed miss

NGK are inferior plugs for the force engines I would only run champion. Its the same thing for 85 6cyl beemers they work better with silver plugs than platinum. If I was a beting man your fuel pump may need a new diaphram kit installed. Also check all the fuel lines for tight couplers. I am almost positive yours is a simple fix as its a 98. (luke may the force be with you allways!) I am guessing you should be running a 11 pitch.
 

sony2001

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Re: 75 Force high speed miss

Decarbonize then go to CHAMPION plugs.<br />L76V might be the right ones.
 
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