77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

csgrizz

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Ok thanks to this forum I have the right spark plugs in, and replaced a faulty prop with a new one.<br /><br />Took it out last night and up on plane, every few seconds it sounded like I "hit" something, but I was not hitting anything, as I was in 20 feet of water?<br /><br />It was very similar to the problem I had before where I thought the motor was "slipping' only this time it only happens on the top end, adn only for a split second. Also the RPM's are not jumping up like with the old prop.<br /><br />Any ideas? I am starting to get frustrated.<br /><br />Thanks AGAIN.<br /><br />Corey
 

Barnacle_Bill

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

Did you check your shift linkage to be sure it is going all the way in gear?
 

Namcali

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

What is the condition of the prop.?<br /><br />Nam
 

BF

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

do a search on "clutch dog" and see if it sounds like your problem. could be that your bad prop was hiding other problems.<br /><br />Brent
 

csgrizz

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

Nam: Prop is brand new.<br /><br />Shift linkage is good,<br /><br />I am leaning towards clutch dog, but none of the descriptions really fit.<br /><br />thanks for the input,<br /><br />CS
 

Paul Moir

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

"Felt like you hit something" and "repeating" are the most common descriptions of a worn clutch dog by far. Unfortunetly.
 

csgrizz

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

Paul or anyone else...<br /><br />IF it is the "clutch dog" which I am leaning towards....what are my options?<br /><br />I don't have a lot of money in this motor, or the boat, so I don't want to sink a lot more into it.<br /><br />Any ideas?<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />CS
 

Paul Moir

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Re: 77 johnson 25 hp still having problems?

csgrizz - you have a few options:<br />1) turn around the clutch dog so you use the reverse ears - this only works if the dog is symmetrical. If it's not, it'll jump worse than before. Sometimes the ear face has a very slight angle cut into it, about 1° or so.<br />2) Buy a new clutch dog - They're not as expensive as I first thought. Seems they go for under $50USD from the dealer. But if the forward gear is also worn out and needs to be replaced, then it gets expensive.<br />3) Regrind the foward gear and clutch dog. You'll need to employ the services of a machinist, and he must remove as little material as possible. These are case hardened parts, and going too deep will go through the hardened layer.<br /><br />The worn dog is caused by either a mis-adjusted remote shifter, or much more commonly from slow shifting. Many people make the mistake of thinking they are being easy on the engine by easing it into gear, when really it needs to be thrown into gear with gusto. It also seems to me that the 15-18-20-25hp (22.0cid) engines are particulairly bad for having worn dogs.<br /><br />If you pull the shifter forward while this is going on, it may stop or at least you may feel the dog jumping through the lever to prove this is the problem. Also, remove the shift linkage access window and make sure it's shifing the lower unit fully into forwards. It's unlikely that this will solve your problem though.<br /><br />Good luck!
 
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