85hp merc no spark

buddyholly

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i have a '75 85hp merc. ran like a top. shut it off after getting to fishing spot, then after an hour tried to start and nothing. no spark. all boat mechs. told me it was the switch box. so i changed it and it started right up. let it idle for a minute then shut off to reinstall the shroud. tried to restart and nothingagain. I noticed that when the key is on but the motor is not running there is a high pitched electical squeal coming from the switch box.everyy thing is hooked up as it should be. please help me my wife is reallyupset that we cant be on the water when we are off work.
 

Chris1956

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Re: 85hp merc no spark

P-B Since that motor is so old, I would inspect all the wiring on it. The switchbox has an always hot red wire, a white wire that connects to the ignition switch and three trigger wires. Make sure none of them have a short to ground and all have clean ring terminals. Also that motor has a mercury switch that kills (grounds) the ignition connected from the trigger (black wire?) to the case ground. Disconect this switch to eliminate it as a problem.
 

buddyholly

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Re: 85hp merc no spark

chris, the mercury switch must have been removed by previous owner. all wiring looks good also,i cleaned terms. when i installed new box and also cleaned the rotor and cap terms. any other options?
 

Chris1956

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Re: 85hp merc no spark

P-B, I would check the coil for continuity and no shorts, on the primary and secondary windings. I would check the coil to distributor wire for continuity(resistance should be zero), and well as the insulation and continuity (again should be zero resistance) on the spark plug wires. The coil to dist. and the spark plug wires are stranded stainless steel. However, the rubber covering gets cracks and allows the spark to short to the block. <br />If you need to replace the wires, look around the various intenet parts sites to get the best price. They range from $5 ea to $15 ea.<br /><br />If all this stuff is good, it is possible your switchbox or trigger is bad. here is Clams Canino's switchbox test procedure. (thanks Clams)<br /><br />MERCURY BATTERY-POWERED CDI TEST <br />FOR DISTRIBUTOR MODELS<br /><br />This test is for the 332-2986 switchbox used from 1967-1978 on all the inlines.<br /><br />This test assumes your coil is good (most all are).<br /><br />DISCONNCT BATTERY <br /><br />1. Turn off ignion<br />2. Disconnect all 3 wires on the distributor side of the switchbox.<br />3. Remove the HV lead from the coil to the center cap (remember it unscrews<br />from cap)<br />4. Reconnect that HV center lead to the COIL side only.<br />5. Position that HV lead about about 3/8" from ground (block, shrouds etc)<br />and find a way to hold it there.<br />6. Jumber the brown and white terminals on the dist. side of the switchbox<br />together.<br /><br />RECONNECT BATTERRY<br /><br />7. Check that you have +12 V at red terminal.<br />8. Turn on ignition and verify +12V at white terminal (on red terminal side)<br />9. Touch the black terminal to ground - unit should cause spark each time<br />you touch ground.<br /><br />If that passes and it won't fire at all, suspect the trigger
 

Dartboy

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Re: 85hp merc no spark

I had no spark on my pre 84 80hp, did all the tests. In the end the Stator was the problem. Replaced this and renewed the wiring between the switchbox and coils. Everything is now fine.
 

buddyholly

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Re: 85hp merc no spark

this morning i called another local shop and they came over and looked at it and there was juice to the switch box but nothing out of it. they put on another box and got spark but the bat. was too low to start it. they will try again tomorrow morn. i guess you cant trust even the new electronics to work all the time. thanks for your input and i will print out so i can use it in the future if i need it. bob
 
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