86 merc 150 xr2

inlgmouth

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I have posted b-4 w/ same problem and have found no permanent solution. Motor bogs down and dies occasionally when going to WOT. I have noticed it seems to do this later in day after running good most of day. Everything has been rebuilt and checked, sometimes twice. Choking will make engine kick in and go great. The carbs are WH29 and I have found no way to lean/richen then without different size jets, which I have not done. One thing I thought of is that when I replaced fuel lines from carb to carb I used too small of a size. Anyone have any ideas?
 

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

Does everything include the fuel pump? Have you check all your fuel lines and primer bulb for cracks? Fuel tank vent clear?
 

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

The fuel pump was rebuilt last year and then again this year when problem still occurred. I replaced all the fuel lines, but if i mistakenly used a smaller size from carb to carb could that be the problem? primer bulb was replaced last year and I did pull the fuel pickup tube and cleaned, as well as the vent.
 

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

I'm not sure about the fuel lines. They are pretty small to start with so smaller ones could cause a problem. Put the correct lines on to be sure. Did you have to force them on over the nipples?
 

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

Erp here, check pick up timing, (the point where thottle plates open with the right amount of spark timing) If plates open to early, it would cause a lean (bog). thats if carbs are clean and the floats are set to spec.
 

j_martin

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I'm not sure about the fuel lines. They are pretty small to start with so smaller ones could cause a problem. Put the correct lines on to be sure. Did you have to force them on over the nipples?

Even "proper" sized Atwood lines will not supply enough fuel for this engine at WOT.

I fought this bug out of my XR4, and the last step that finally fixed it was to replace the aftermarket fuel line and primer bulb with a Mercury bulb. The aftermarket bayonet connector that had been put in the engine was also inadequate.

If it has the same finger sized filter as the XR4, that plugs up quite easily and shows as fuel starvation at WOT.

Crud floating around in the fuel tank would probably settle to the bottom, allowing clear running early in the day, then get caught in the pickup screen as the day wears on.

The best bet is to find the one last fuel connection that's not used on the carbs, (probably port on the bottom carb) and replace the plug with a barb and temporarily hook up a 10 lb pressure gauge. It needs 2 lbs to run right, can take up to about 7. You'll find that when it craps out, fuel pressure is zero.

You need to get this fixed. Going lean at WOT is about the quickest way I know to make a boat anchor out of that great engine.

hope it helps
John
 

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

If my motor had your symptoms, I would hook up a vacuum gauge to the fuel line just before the fuel pump to monitor the vacuum level during engine bog. Knowing this will narrow down or elimate some of the possible causes of your problem. The below link contains some guidance on how to do this. If you post your results in this thread I am sure you will get some more good advice on likely solutions. Good luck.



http://www.marinepartsman.com/Mercury-Marine-service-bulletins/Mercury-Mariner/2001/EN_17.PDF
 

inlgmouth

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

Thanks everyone! I'll post results when I find out.
 

inlgmouth

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

I have cleaned pickup tube screen (had a little dirt),cleaned vent screen, and ran fuel line from primer bulb straight to fuel pump, bypassing the connector(adaptor) where fuel line enters motor. Thought this would tell me if connector is bad. What is the purpose of that connector? Is it OK to run with fuel line straight to fuel pump? Seems to be getting more fuel. Haven't taken to lake yet, only ran on muffs
 

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

Ran in lake today and ran good. Don't know if cleaning pickup tube helped or bypassing the fuel line adaptor/connector was it. I think I will continue to run engine bypassing adaptor. Will this hurt anything?
 

j_martin

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

Naw, just another line to take off when you change the motor. I junked my bayonet, which had been changed to a plastic (atwood) one, and it made the difference between crapping out and going strong.

go drive it
John
 

inlgmouth

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Re: 86 merc 150 xr2

Thanks j martin. Thanks to everyone for all the advice. Great info on all threads!! I'm sure there will be many more from my end.
 
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