87 force no spark no start

iliketofish111

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i have a 1987 force outboard 125 mph i have no spark in all four cylenders also i do no have power to my accessories i do not no if the two probelms are connected but my main concern is the spark all the batteries are on
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 87 force no spark no start

Disconnect the blue wire at the engine terminal board by the starter. If you now have spark, then you most likely have a bad ignition switch, or the switch is hooked up wrong. These engines are stopped by grounding the CD boxes through the white wire. With the switch turned to stop position, the white wire connects to the blue wire through the ignition switch then the blue wire is connected to ground at the engine terminal board.
Correct switch wiring is blue wire to one "M" terminal, white wire to the other "M" terminal, Red wire to "B" terminal. "I" terminal is used to power accessories that must be off when the engine is not running (tach, overheat indicator, voltmeter, gas gauge, etc.). Green wire to "C" terminal, Yellow wire to "S" terminal. The two "M" terminals are connected at stop position and do not connect in run or start position. Black wire is a ground and is usually connected to a ground bus to ground accessories, and purple wire is signal to the tach. Orange is overheat indicator and is attached to "I" terminal. If for some reason the white wire is connected to the ground under the dash, then there is the problem.
If all is well, then you need to check coils, triggers, CD boxes and power to the boxes, although I don't think these units would fail on all four cylinders.
Again, no power to accessories means the "I" terminal is either not hooked up, the red wire is not attached to the "B" terminal, or the switch is bad. If the switch is bad, the two problems are related. If the switch is ok, then the two problems are not related.
 

iliketofish111

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Re: 87 force no spark no start

do you think that i should ttry and fix it myself or i should have it done perfessionally the boat was running and all of the sudden it did this
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 87 force no spark no start

They are going to charge you 100 bucks an hour to troubleshoot it---'Nuff Said?
If you are at all mechanically inclined or electrically inclined try troubleshooting it yourself with help from the excellent advisors on this forum. The electrical parts that are repairable are not that difficult to understand. You just need to take a logical approach.

And also, I just remembered: If you have no spark on all four cylinders and it happened suddenly, check the ground system. There is a small black wire that grounds all the coils and boxes through the mounting plate to the engine block. if this has broken or corroded and you are not getting a good ground, it will affect the entire ignition system. I think its a weak point and I always run a separate ground to the terminal plate next to the starter.
 
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