89 Evinrude stuck in forward gear after new impeller.

[Jmitch1102]

i have a 89 Evinrude 140 that is stuck in forward gear no matter the shifter position including throttle only. I just replsced the water pump. This is the first time out since the new pump. I had the lower in reverse when I took it out and left it in reverse when I realized installed it. The lower gave me trouble putting it back on and the shifter did spin around a few times. Can I just disconnect the linkage and then using needle nose spin in back tight then reconnect it? Any help is appreciated. Thanks

 

[racerone]

No , the shift rod is not supposed to be spun into the lower unit it is tight.------It is to be set to a specific height ( 21-15/16" ) when in nuetral.-----Not to be adjusted after that is set !!-----So take the lower unit off again.----Set it with gearcase in neutral.----Measurement is from mounting surface to the center of the wee hole.

 

[Jmitch1102]

Thank you. I have been contemplating getting the manual for it. This is going to sell me I’m getting it. I tried not letting the linage turn but had a hard time getting it to line up and fit through the rubber boot.

 

[Jmitch1102]

Thank you. I have been contemplating getting the manual for it. This is going to sell me I’m getting it. I tried not letting the linkage turn but had a hard time getting it to line up and fit through the rubber boot on the top side.

 

[Jmitch1102]

What is considered the mounting surface? I’m trying to figure out how to post a picture but as usual i can’t figure it out. I have read the tutorial on how to post them but still can’t seem to get it. I’m guessing it’s because I’m using my phone.

 

[racerone]

That would be the surface on top of the gearcase and the surface on the bottom of the exhaust housing.

 

[Jmitch1102]

Thank you. I was assuming that was the point. Due to the measurement that I had. I appreciate the help. I hope to get a chance to get it bolted back up in the next few days. Is there a certain site you recommend purchasing a manual from?

 

[Jmitch1102]

I set the shift rod to 21 15/16”. With the lower in neutral. I then put the lower into reverse and the helm into reverse and installed the lower. The shifter shifts to forward but when I come back to neutral or reverse at the helm the linkage in the motor stays in forward. Is there a possibility I damaged my cable when I noticed it was stuck in forward on the water? I can manually assist the linkage on the motor back to neutral and then to reverse. It goes its self back to forward but once again will not come back. Is there some other step I am missing. I have not tested it again on the water I have only tested it in muffs in the garage. Thanks

 

[racerone]

Have a look inside the control box.

 

[Jmitch1102]

That’s first on my agenda. I already started to pull it tonight. I just ran out of time. I will try to get a look at it tomorrow’s. Thanks. Where is a good place to get a manual for this engine? 89 140 Hp evinrude

 

[JerEazy]

Mine was doing something similar. The dogs will jump inside the box if the plastic gets worn. There’s some videos on YouTube for how to fix it.

eBay for the factory manual.

I did the same thing to my shift rod. It’s an easy fix - but an annoying one. I had a helluva time getting it lined up when I was putting my LU back on.

 

[Jmitch1102]

I opened up my control box this a.m and didn’t notice anything out of place. The dogs are all metal and didn’t look like they could slip

 

[JerEazy]

If it is the control box, it could be part #2 on this picture - which is plastic. The part doesn't normally need replaced. Just reset properly. But it could also just be a bound cable. Sorry i cant be more help. below is a link to the part on E-bay for a look of how it goes together

https://www.iboats.com/shop/engine-parts/1989-Evinrude-E140CXCEC-Remote-Control-Parts.html


https://www.ebay.com/p/NOS-OMC-EVINR...610/1422246926

 

[Jmitch1102]

I will open it back up again when I get home but I thought both of those parts are metal in the control I have. Thanks for the advice.

 

[JerEazy]

Might be a shot in the dark - but if you put the shift rod facing the wrong direction (towards the boat instead of towards the drive shaft or vice versa depending on what your engine requires - I think correct is towards the drive shaft) the shift rod might not engage properly.

ask me how I know. :eyeroll:

 

[Joe Reeves]

Jmitch1102.... Getting back to basics..... disconnect the shift cable from the engine at the engine's linkage.

Now, using the shift linkage only and shifting by hand while spinning the prop with your foot to have the dog & gear lobes align when going into gear..... Does the lower unit shift properly and does the linkage move a identical amount? If so, then your measurement is correct.

However.... if you need to move that linkage more in one direction than the other (forward/reverse) the measurement is wrong.

Let us know what you find.

 

[Jmitch1102]

I found the issue! I wish I could get a picture to upload. My shift cable snapped up in the gunnel. I was able to get help moving the shift cable and watching the linkage it would only move a limited amount. With little resistance at the helm. Once a pulled the cable out I noticed the core was intact but the outside wires and jacket were broken. I ordered both cables today and will let you know if that fixes the issue. I read some older post from Joe earlier on adjusting the cable on a older V4. That should help when I get them in. Thanks for everyone’s help. I will still check the movement of the linkage while I’m waiting for the cables to arrive.

 

[Joe Reeves]

A broken outer cable jacket... Wow! In all my years in the trade, I don't recall ever running into that one. Glad you found it... unlikely any of us would have suggested that one.

 

[JerEazy]

I found the issue! I wish I could get a picture to upload. My shift cable snapped up in the gunnel. I was able to get help moving the shift cable and watching the linkage it would only move a limited amount. With little resistance at the helm. Once a pulled the cable out I noticed the core was intact but the outside wires and jacket were broken. I ordered both cables today and will let you know if that fixes the issue. I read some older post from Joe earlier on adjusting the cable on a older V4. That should help when I get them in. Thanks for everyone’s help. I will still check the movement of the linkage while I’m waiting for the cables to arrive.

glad you found it!

 

[Jmitch1102]

I cut the end off to make it easier to pull it out, but you can still see the break it was close to the control box end.