89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

[Eddie Rivera]

89 force 50 hp. leaking water from exhaust gasket. today motor felt warm and was not spitting as usual and the motor shut off and would not turn nor click then i discovered that a 15 v fuse was blown the water in the tank seemed sandy or black particles or peaces of the exhaust gasket remained.

i changed the fuse and it turned back on but it didnt seem or sound right. please look at my pictures and i also took a video but not sure how to post it. i never use my computer im always on the road so i use my I-phone but im so tired of working on it for the last 4 months and im so burnt out. please help i dont want to have to change the stupid gasket which means take it all apart to pull iy out and replace the bottom and upper gasket.

my alarm did not go off and i think that is why the fuse burnt. i checked the ther,ostat and it seemed ok but the little plastic rubber or o ring holding it was not straight and the gasket seemed ok.

can i just put it in the water now my head is killing me with doing so much to it and mechanis here are such rip offs. im in Ontario southern california. im ready to grab a bat and break the hell out of it. please help please.

 

[Eddie Rivera]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

notice on one of the pictures water comung out near the rear bolt holding the lower unit, is that normal? there is a little hole there and what does it mean?

p,lease check out my video and help me out please

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

WOW! You have a lot of water coming out from the cowl and no, it is NOT normal. YES, you do need to bite the bullet and replace the gasket. Sure, it is getting cooling water and probably will not overheat, but most of the water is exhausting inside the cowl. There is a distinct possibility that at high speeds the cowl will fill with water and the carb will ingest some, stalling the engine.

 

[Eddie Rivera]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

I know I need to change te gasket for sure. The cowl has 2 small drain holes that I drilled bigger and drilled a 3rd one to prevent flooding in the cowl. What you see on the port side of the motor is just exhausting out.

I AM SO BURNT OUT - I've done so much to this motor and I just want to put it in the water BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO LET ME KNOW IF I COULD USE IT LIKE THIS FOR THIS SEASON I PROMISE I WON'T SPEED AND KEEP AN EYE ON EVERYTHING AND I NEED SOMEONE TO TELL ME HOW MUCH IS FAIR TO PAY FOR SOMEONE TO REPAIR THE GASKET AND IF YOU GUYS COULD RECOMEND SOMEONE. I could do it but like I said I've spent the last 4 months working on it as my first boat I feel I've done plenty without knowing. But I want to put it in the water. Advice????????

 

[foodfisher]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

Mind set! Do it right, do it once.

 

[jerryjerry05]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

Where are you at? I think you told us once.
Fill out the profile.
If your in Fl.I can help.

 

[Eddie Rivera]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

That is the mind set i have had since i bought this little Boat 4 months ago. From tangled earmuffs wuth the prop to having no spark from a lose stator tgat burned to re groving the gears to having no kill switch circuit fixing holes in the hull rebuilding the bottom with seals bearings etc. That is why i feel burnt out! That is why I want help but I refuse to get ripped off. I've saved a few thousand dollars just doing things my self with no experience what's so ever. But I'm picky and want things right. But um burnt out and have spent weeks and weekends working on this.

 

[Eddie Rivera]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

Jerry - I'm in Ontario Southern California in what is known as the Inland Empire. About 35 miles east of Los Angeles.

There is a guy at city of chino called Dave's Marine but he just wants to take advantage. He told me to put my motor back together and he would test my ignition system claiming a stator can not be bench tested. But I did an the manual it self tells you how- but he wanted to charge me $190 to test it.

For the exhaust gasket he claims its an all day job so he must charge 8 hours - another reputable shop said its a 3 hour job but they don't work on my brand of outboard.

I cannot find any one that could be trusted. That is why I do things my self - to avoid being taken advantage of and to avoid arguments.

Please advise if I could last a season like this and then fix it it how long of a job is it before I pay or do it my self!

 

[Frank Acampora]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

Eddie: If we are talking about the base gasket between the block and midleg, while the gasket is relatively cheap, the actual repair is miserable and takes a long time. I would not be surprised if a marine repair shop would charge upwards of 500 dollars.

The problem is that on these engines, the block just does not want to separate from the midleg and you need to cuss and swear, kick it, and generally beat the sh*** out of it. All this takes time that the mechanic will charge at over 100 bucks an hour.

I got started DIY for the same reason as you: Not only do mechanics charge a lot, but it seems that more than half are--for lack of a kinder word--incompetent.

As long as the engine is not overheating and water is draining adequately from the cowl, yes, the engine can be used. As long as SOME water is exiting through the exhaust snout, the midleg is being cooled too and you won't get burned if you touch it.

I hear you about being burned out. We boat for fun, not to spend every weekend working on the engine. But, eventually all will be made right and then you should be able to simply enjoy.

 

[jerryjerry05]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

Make sure the overheat buzzer is working.Then go for a ride.

 

[Eddie Rivera]

Re: 89 force 50 HP leaking too much water motor shutting off

Jerry, i will test it again cuz I tested it before by connecting it to the battery neg and pos and I heard it.

Last time I was messing with it the fuse burnt and it was a 15 a fuse and right now when I was trying the kill switch - which I fixed by the way - it was a broken ground wire going to the coil plate.

I broke my earmuffs and I put the motor into that container in the video and I let it idle for a long time and I felt it warm the. The motor shut off and I found the burnt fuse which belongs to the heat buzzer.

I will test again. If its not working do you think that's why the fuse is burning? And would it be heating up cuz there is not enough water covering the lower leg like at the lake? The buzzer doesn't show which wire goes where but maybe I should switch the wire positions?
Please advice!