9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

Alby1

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This is a 1992 J10ELENA. I totally overhauled it, converting it to a 15hp. It has the 15hp carb and exhaust. Bored to thirty thousands over, new carb, new spark plugs and wire. Engine was broken in according to standard procedures. I now have about 30 hours of run time on it. It starts, idles and runs great, with the exception of it loosing 2 to 300 rpm's at WOT. Explanation: After initial warm-up from a cold start, I throttle up to WOT. The boat quickly gets up to plain and runs at peek RPM for 25 to 30 seconds and then quickly looses 2 to 300 rpm and stays there. If I leave the motor cool down for about 30 minutes or more it runs as I previously describe. Note: The motor is not running hot. It feels like normal temps, oil mix is at 50:1. Things I've tried to do to figure out what the problem is; Tried letting off the throttle then back to WOT, taking the cover off the motor, slightly closing the choke to see if could get a reaction, squeezing the prime bulb, change the fuel pump, rechecked the timing, dismantle and inspect the carb, change spark plugs, checked resistance in the ignition components, even checked the lower unit for binding. All of the things I tried had no effect, the resistance checks were ok.

I?m wondering if I need to increase the main jet a couple sizes to compensate for the thirty thousands increase of the bore?

I?ve simply run out ideas of what to check, unless, I need to get new hamsters to replace the old ones I put back in.:confused::confused::D
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

check your link n sinc. sounds like timing may be backing off a little, or it could be flooding a little. seems like if it were running lean it would speed up. as a motor does when it is running out of gas. check your butterflies.
 

Alby1

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

OK...rechecked link n sinc they are right on the money. I can't put my finger on the flooding, I'm not getting any indicators for flooding, and the plugs look good. I understand what you mean about the lean when you?re running out of gas and the motor wants to speed up but I only found that true when the motor has no load on it. Under full load running out of gas, it plain dies. The butterflies are tight, seated correct and parallel at WOT.

I had another techie tell me to look for a hair line crack in the manifold and block. That when the engine got warm it would leak. I washed the power head down to get any oil residue off. I looked for any indicators or sign but found nothing, short of dismantling the power head. I took it down to the lake this morning, run it for an hour or so, still has the same problem and didn't see any oil/gas residue.

I was hoping there was another tech reading this had run across the kind of problem.

Thank you for your suggestions tashasdaddy.
 

iwombat

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

Three things worth checking come to mind.

1) Some years the 15hp had an additional reed spacer that the 9.9 did not.

2) Make sure your powerpack is for the 15hp, there were some differences there as well depending on year.

3) Tank vent working properly.
 

Alby1

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

Thanks iwombat.:D The spacer ( reed petal shim ) is in there. Reed stop petals and reeds are new. Tank vent is ok, breathing good. Didn't know about the powerpack, I thought they were the same on the same year 9.9 and 15. Have to check that out and get back.:)
 

iwombat

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

It could also be your basic air leak. Have you tried a new hose and tank? An air leak causes the gas to foam up in the pump. Your first float bowl full of gas will burn fine. But, once that float valve lets in some foamy gas you'll have problems.
 

SS140

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

Ive place my bet, on the Powerpack
 

Raymondpb

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

Did you get this issue fixed? If so what was it?

Is it safe to say that the 9.9 and the 15 hp johnson are teh same execpt for the carb?

Raymond
 

SS140

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Re: 9.9/15 Johnson Loosing RPM's at WOT

Three things worth checking come to mind.

1) Some years the 15hp had an additional reed spacer that the 9.9 did not.

2) Make sure your powerpack is for the 15hp, there were some differences there as well depending on year.

3) Tank vent working properly.

^^^
 
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