91 Johnson 175 EXEIS alarm

BGRiv

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Recently purchased 1991 Johnson 175 EXIES 60V on 20 ' Hydrasport D/C. Ran well on sea trial but seemed underpowered. After the deal and a 175 mile trip back to New Orleans, 1st trip out ran into alarm tone after 15 minutes of running at near top speed. Telltale is streaming water vigorously and water pump was represented to have been recently replaced. Seemed to be a high temp alarm. Replaced thermostats yesterday and still getting alarm after 5-6 minutes under earmuffs. Alarm is not a steady tone but beeps for 1 sec every 2 seconds.

Also notice a fair amount of water leaking at the lower units where it attaches to the midsection. Called a wellknown shop who said this should not be a problem. Anyone had an experience similar. Any suggestions other than go see the mechanic???
 
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Re: 91 Johnson 175 EXEIS alarm

I am not sure but I think a non steady beep is for either fuel restriction or no/low oil? Not sure which.
 

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Re: 91 Johnson 175 EXEIS alarm

Recently purchased 1991 Johnson 175 EXIES 60V on 20 ' Hydrasport D/C. Ran well on sea trial but seemed underpowered. After the deal and a 175 mile trip back to New Orleans, 1st trip out ran into alarm tone after 15 minutes of running at near top speed. Telltale is streaming water vigorously and water pump was represented to have been recently replaced. Seemed to be a high temp alarm. Replaced thermostats yesterday and still getting alarm after 5-6 minutes under earmuffs. Alarm is not a steady tone but beeps for 1 sec every 2 seconds.

Also notice a fair amount of water leaking at the lower units where it attaches to the midsection. Called a wellknown shop who said this should not be a problem. Anyone had an experience similar. Any suggestions other than go see the mechanic???
Does this engine have the VRO/ OMS automatic oiling fuel pump system? (in other words do you premix or is there an oil tank).

The 2 second interval beep is "no oil" alarm which means that a sensor at the fuel pump has determined that the oil flow rate is not sufficient for the fuel rate. It generally means you're completely out of oil or there is something preventing the oil from flowing from the tank to the fuel pump. This is an emergency type tone because without oil your engine will get messed up quickly. Solution could be as simple as a crimped line or leaky clamps. Could be solved by checking out all your oil lines, clamps (use the ratchet kind) and purging the oil line. This is all very simple, DIY stuff.

The other intermittent alarm - one beep every few (10-15?) seconds is "low oil" which is a sensor in the oil tank that goes off when the oil is about 1/4 tank. It is not an emergency, but needs attention.

Two steady alarms are over heat and fuel restriction. They are identical and differ by what causes them and what causes them to stop.

The fuel restriction is a sensor at the fuel pump that determines that the fuel isn't flowing adequately. It will generally sound at fairly high RPMs, but turn off pretty much immediately if you back down the RPMs.

The overheat alarm will sound at any RPM from idle to WOT whenever the engine is too hot. Unlike the fuel restriction, if it happens at high RPM, it won't quit as soon as you back down, but only quits when the engine cools off.

In other words, if you're chasing a overheat or water pump issue, you're probably chasing the wrong thing. You'll need to check your oiling system. Let us know all about the oil system and fuel pump.
 

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Re: 91 Johnson 175 EXEIS alarm

Thanks for your reply. Engine is NOT equipped with VRO and fuel and oil are premixed. Broker/Dealer I purchased from indicated they had drained fuel tank and put fresh gas & oil mix with a shock treatment of Yamaha ring free oil treatment of 2:1. Engine ran fine on sea trials but the intermittant alarm started 15 minutes into 2nd launch. Fuel supply is low (approx 1/8th tank by gauge) as dealer / broker suggested I run the ring free fuel through before re-filling.

I guess I could try to add 6 gallons of premix fuel/oil and run engine again on earmuffs to see if alarm continues or quits. Only good Johnson mechanic is booked solid with a wait list.
 

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Re: 91 Johnson 175 EXEIS alarm

Thanks to DAJohnson53 for tip on the no oil alarm. Broker who sold me the rig repaired at no cost and no further trouble from alarms after weekend of running around Orange Beach, AL.

Now onto the next issue. This 17year old 175 EXEIS Johnson does not seem to have the power to push the 20' HydraSport Dual Console over to plane. Engine starts easily, idles well and runs well at idle speed and at manuever speeds, however, when accelerating, the hull labors to climb over the hump with the throttle at full or near full. Broker stated he compression checked engine and all cylinders are marked with 90-95 as compression. Talked to a newer 20' \Grady White owner runing a 150 yamaha 4 stroke who said he had no trouble pushing his hull at 40+ easily. My gauges are flakey and unreliable but at full throttle, seems I can make near 30 at 3500 rpms. Any ideas? I'm on a wait list to get her into a good OMC mechanic here in New Orleans.
 
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