91 johnson 40hp out board motor

single7188

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after running for ten minutes or more engine looses all power than dies. I have had both carbs rebuilt and it still does this , I bought the boat last year and the guy I got from says he never had a problem with . I was talking to him about it and he says he has never change the impellar in it could this be my problem? Jeep Joe
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: 91 johnson 40hp out board motor

If the engine stopped due to overheating, the engine would be seized, and it would be impossible to crank it over until it cooled off somewhat.<br /><br />You should have a warning horn that beeps momentarily when you turn the ignition key to the ON position. If it does, then I would assume that the warning system is operational. In which case, if the engine overheated, the warning horn would sound off steady before the engine was hot enough to do any damage.<br /><br />Also, if the engine got that hot, the paint would be discolored and any wire in close proximity to the powerhead would be melted.<br /><br />When the engine stopped running, was the fuel primer bulb flat? If so, I would suspect a fuel restriction between the primer bulb and the fuel supply. If you're using portable tanks, make sure the vent is open if it exists.<br /><br />If you have a built in tank, see the following and use the info that would apply to your engine:<br /><br />(Fuel Anti Siphon Valve)<br />(J. Reeves)<br /> <br />Many of the later OMC V/6 engines incorporate a fuel restriction warning via a vaccum device attached to the powerhead. If the engine overheats, or if you have a fuel restriction, the warning is the same.... a steady constant beep.<br /> <br />NOTE... Only the V/6 & V/8 engines have the above "Fuel Restriction Warning". The warning horn will not sound on the other models. <br /><br />The fact that a engine is not overheating, but the warning horn sounds off with a constant steady beep, and that the rpms drop drastically would indicate that the engine is starving for fuel due to a fuel restriction. Check the built in fuel tank where the rubber fuel line attaches to the tank fitting. That fitting is in all probability a "Anti Siphon" valve which is notorious for sticking in a semi closed position. It will be aluminum, about 2" long, and the insides of it will consist of a spring, a ball, and a ball seat. If this valve exists, remove it, knock out those inner components which will convert it to a straight through fitting, then re-install it. Hopefully that cures the problem.
 

single7188

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Re: 91 johnson 40hp out board motor

MEMBER #6826 I tried what you said about the anti siphon valve its already been done. Do you have any other suggestions? The motor runs fine when hooked up to a hose, only dies when put in the water.
 

rickdb1boat

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Re: 91 johnson 40hp out board motor

Are you absolutly sure it's not overheating? It may not on the hose, as water pressure is "pushed" into the block. Does the overheat horn work? Run it for about 5 Minutes in the water(Not Muffs) and feel the powerhead. If it's hot enough that you can't hold your finders on there for about 5 seconds without getting burned, it's overheating. Also, test the overheat horn. Look on the back of the engine block where the spark spugs are located. There will be a tan wire going into the powerhead. Disconnect it at the bullet connector and ground out the side coming from the remote control with the key in the ON(Not Started) position. It should sound the warning horn. On a side note, if he never changed the water pump, do it now.. If all that is ok, get a new OMC primer bulb, fuel line with new conectors and make sure the fuel tank vent is clear. Is this a portable tank or built-in model?
 
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